In this episode, counsellor and parenting coach <a href="https://www.facebook.com/jami.kirkbride" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jami Kirkbride</a> opens up about what she has learned raising seven children, including a neurodivergent child with ADHD and a mood disorder, and how that journey transformed both her parenting and her professional practice as a counsellor and coach. Jami explores what happens when we stop treating behaviour as the problem and start getting curious about what it is communicating. She talks honestly about after-school restraint collapse, body budget, sensory overwhelm, and why the most challenging moments are often the most important signals a child can send. At the heart of it all is Jami's belief that every child is uniquely wired and that when parents understand that wiring, parenting stops feeling like a battle and starts feeling like a connection. She also shares something rarely talked about: the guilt and shame parents carry, and why giving yourself grace is not weakness but the foundation everything else is built on. Join Jami and host Clive Wilson for an honest, warm and genuinely useful conversation about seeing your child clearly, supporting yourself first, and why curiosity might be the single most powerful parenting tool there is. For Jami's upcoming mums retreat and further resources visit <a href="https://parentingwithpersonality.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">parentingwithpersonality.com</a> Find Jami's coaching programme at <a href="https://www.calmconnectionparent.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">calmconnectionparent.com</a> ADHD Freedoms is hosted by Clive Wilson. Find more episodes and resources at <a href="https://adhdfreedoms.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">adhdfreedoms.com</a>

In this episode, counsellor and parenting coach Jami Kirkbride opens up about what she has learned raising seven children, including a neurodivergent child with ADHD and a mood disorder, and how that journey transformed both her parenting and her professional practice as a counsellor and coach.Jami explores what happens when we stop treating behaviour as the problem and start getting curious about what it is communicating. She talks honestly about after-school restraint collapse, body budget, sensory overwhelm, and why the most challenging moments are often the most important signals a child can send.At the heart of it all is Jami's belief that every child is uniquely wired and that when parents understand that wiring, parenting stops feeling like a battle and starts feeling like a connection. She also shares something rarely talked about: the guilt and shame parents carry, and why giving yourself grace is not weakness but the foundation everything else is built on.Join Jami and host Clive Wilson for an honest, warm and genuinely useful conversation about seeing your child clearly, supporting yourself first, and why curiosity might be the single most powerful parenting tool there is.For Jami's upcoming mums retreat and further resources visit parentingwithpersonality.comFind Jami's coaching programme at calmconnectionparent.comADHD Freedoms is hosted by Clive Wilson. Find more episodes and resources at adhdfreedoms.com

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Jami Kirkbride - Parenting the Unique Child: What Behaviour Is Really Saying

Episode Number 10 Many people with ADHD and autism have been told they are the problem. Too loud, too distracted, too much. But what if the system was the wrong shape for the mind inside it? In this episode of ADHD Freedoms, Clive speaks with psychologist and author Robert J. Bernstein, whose award-winning book Uniquely Normal - Tapping the Reservoir of Normalcy to Treat Autism has helped thousands of families see their children differently. Robert shares stories from decades of clinical work - the six year old who invented her own way to stop zooming, the chess sessions that taught a child to think ahead, and the five rings on a spindle that revealed how a bright kid organised his thoughts. You will learn why problem solving is the number one skill in education, why change can happen in a single realisation rather than incrementally, how to teach ideas rather than just facts, and why one genuine friendship can matter more than an entire year of curriculum. This conversation is for parents, teachers, therapists and anyone who has ever felt misunderstood by the environment they were placed in. Listen in and start seeing the reservoir of potential that was there all along. Guest Website <a href="https://www.robertjbernstein.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">RobertJBernstein.com</a> Book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Uniquely-Normal-Tapping-Reservoir-Normalcy/dp/1941765467" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uniquely Normal - Robert J. Bernstein</a> (available on Amazon, foreword by Temple Grandin) Tags ADHD, autism, parenting, education, child psychology, neurodiversity, learning differences, potential, Robert Bernstein

Episode Number 10Many people with ADHD and autism have been told they are the problem. Too loud, too distracted, too much. But what if the system was the wrong shape for the mind inside it?In this episode of ADHD Freedoms, Clive speaks with psychologist and author Robert J. Bernstein, whose award-winning book Uniquely Normal - Tapping the Reservoir of Normalcy to Treat Autism has helped thousands of families see their children differently.Robert shares stories from decades of clinical work - the six year old who invented her own way to stop zooming, the chess sessions that taught a child to think ahead, and the five rings on a spindle that revealed how a bright kid organised his thoughts.You will learn why problem solving is the number one skill in education, why change can happen in a single realisation rather than incrementally, how to teach ideas rather than just facts, and why one genuine friendship can matter more than an entire year of curriculum.This conversation is for parents, teachers, therapists and anyone who has ever felt misunderstood by the environment they were placed in.Listen in and start seeing the reservoir of potential that was there all along.Guest Website RobertJBernstein.comBook Uniquely Normal - Robert J. Bernstein (available on Amazon, foreword by Temple Grandin)Tags ADHD, autism, parenting, education, child psychology, neurodiversity, learning differences, potential, Robert Bernstein

Robert J. Bernstein - Unlocking Potential - ADHD, Autism & the Power of Authentic Learning

Many people both with and without ADHD live with addictive secrets that no one sees. Skin picking, nail biting, hair pulling, scrolling, bingeing or anything that brings quick relief when the pressure spikes. These habits are not signs of weakness. They are signs of an overwhelmed nervous system doing its best to cope. In this episode of ADHD Freedoms, Clive speaks with therapist and coach Rafaela Marie (<a href="https://raffaelamarie.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">raffaelamarie.com</a>) known for her specialised work with ADHD and Body Focused Repetitive Behaviours. Rafaela breaks down why self soothing patterns appear, why they are so hard to stop, and how small changes in your environment and self talk can shift the entire cycle. You will learn how emotional thresholds work, why boredom feels painful for ADHD minds, how identity shapes habits and how to build a life that supports and excites you instead of draining you. This conversation offers understanding, practical insight and real hope for anyone who feels stuck or ashamed of their coping behaviours. Listen in and start changing the story your brain believes.

Many people both with and without ADHD live with addictive secrets that no one sees. Skin picking, nail biting, hair pulling, scrolling, bingeing or anything that brings quick relief when the pressure spikes. These habits are not signs of weakness. They are signs of an overwhelmed nervous system doing its best to cope.In this episode of ADHD Freedoms, Clive speaks with therapist and coach Rafaela Marie (raffaelamarie.com) known for her specialised work with ADHD and Body Focused Repetitive Behaviours.Rafaela breaks down why self soothing patterns appear, why they are so hard to stop, and how small changes in your environment and self talk can shift the entire cycle.You will learn how emotional thresholds work, why boredom feels painful for ADHD minds, how identity shapes habits and how to build a life that supports and excites you instead of draining you.This conversation offers understanding, practical insight and real hope for anyone who feels stuck or ashamed of their coping behaviours.Listen in and start changing the story your brain believes.

Rafaella Marie - Understanding Skin Picking, Compulsions, BFRB's and Addictions

In this episode, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_lauriefaulkner/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Laurie Faulkner</a> opens up about living with ADHD and how it shaped her path toward purpose and connection. She reflects on the years she spent undiagnosed, the confusion that came with it, and the shift that happened when she finally understood her mind on her own terms. Laurie talks honestly about the power of sharing real experiences so others feel less alone. She explores the tools that help her stay steady in a busy brain like breathwork for overwhelm, movement for emotional balance, and simple planning habits that support clarity. At the heart of it all is Laurie’s belief in curiosity, communication, and community. By learning openly and reaching out, she has grown into someone who not only manages ADHD but uses it as fuel for deeper connection and creativity.Join Laurie as she embraces the way her mind works, finds her footing, and inspires others to do the same. Follow Laurie’s journey on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/_lauriefaulkner/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> for grounded insight, encouragement and an energised motivation to create positive changes that grow..

In this episode, Laurie Faulkner opens up about living with ADHD and how it shaped her path toward purpose and connection. She reflects on the years she spent undiagnosed, the confusion that came with it, and the shift that happened when she finally understood her mind on her own terms.Laurie talks honestly about the power of sharing real experiences so others feel less alone. She explores the tools that help her stay steady in a busy brain like breathwork for overwhelm, movement for emotional balance, and simple planning habits that support clarity.At the heart of it all is Laurie’s belief in curiosity, communication, and community. By learning openly and reaching out, she has grown into someone who not only manages ADHD but uses it as fuel for deeper connection and creativity.Join Laurie as she embraces the way her mind works, finds her footing, and inspires others to do the same.Follow Laurie’s journey on Instagram for grounded insight, encouragement and an energised motivation to create positive changes that grow.. 

Laurie Faulkner - An Inspiring Influencer's ADHD Jouney to Success

Clive speaks with 21-year-old Ava Duel about ADHD and Business, school struggles, sensory overload, burnout, and coping strategies. From failed meds to fidget-friendly hoodies, this conversation explores what it means to work with your brain, not against it. A must-listen for anyone feeling wired, tired and looking for inspiration.

Clive speaks with 21-year-old Ava Duel about ADHD and Business, school struggles, sensory overload, burnout, and coping strategies. From failed meds to fidget-friendly hoodies, this conversation explores what it means to work with your brain, not against it. A must-listen for anyone feeling wired, tired and looking for inspiration.

Ava Duel - Hoodies, Burnout, and the Quiet Power of Not Fitting In

Are you caught in the painful cycle of ADHD shame? In this episode, we dive deep with expert Rebecca Tolbert to understand the roots of shame spirals and how they impact the ADHD brain. Learn practical, powerful strategies like the 3S Protocol and Semperi Pillars to break free from overwhelm, build confidence, and start living a life of greater ease and freedom. Whether you have an ADHD diagnosis or just resonate with the struggles of focus and organization, this episode is packed with actionable insights for a more empowered life.

Are you caught in the painful cycle of ADHD shame? In this episode, we dive deep with expert Rebecca Tolbert to understand the roots of shame spirals and how they impact the ADHD brain. Learn practical, powerful strategies like the 3S Protocol and Semperi Pillars to break free from overwhelm, build confidence, and start living a life of greater ease and freedom. Whether you have an ADHD diagnosis or just resonate with the struggles of focus and organization, this episode is packed with actionable insights for a more empowered life.

Rebecca Tolbert - Escaping the ADHD Shame Spiral

In this compelling episode of the ADHD Freedoms podcast, hosts Clive Wilson and Ceri Boundy dive deep into the often-unexplored territories of neurodivergent living, societal expectations, and personal liberation. Their authentic dialogue offers valuable insights for anyone navigating life with ADHD or seeking to understand it better. The conversation brilliantly unpacks the concept of "thinking space" - a revolutionary perspective that transforms what many label as "paralysis" into a necessary and valuable part of the ADHD experience. As Boundy poignantly asks, "Are we allowed that thinking space in school? In relationships? At work?" This questioning challenges listeners to reconsider their own relationships with time and productivity.What makes this episode particularly powerful is its exploration of intergenerational patterns and societal conditioning. The hosts discuss how it takes four generations to break unhealthy expectations, while acknowledging the courage required to step away from familiar but restrictive patterns. Their discussion of breaking free from "familial generational expectations" offers hope and practical insights for listeners seeking their own path. The episode shines in its examination of personal agency and permission. As Wilson notes, "Who allows us and who disallows us at the end of the day?" This profound question cuts to the heart of self-empowerment and boundary-setting, especially relevant for those with ADHD who often struggle with external expectations.Perhaps most inspiringly, the conversation tackles the myth of "disarray" in ADHD lives. Through their discussion, the hosts reframe what others might see as chaos into what it truly is: innovation, creativity, and a different way of approaching life's challenges. Their honest exploration of these themes offers listeners a fresh perspective on embracing their unique neural wiring. For anyone feeling constrained by conventional expectations or seeking to understand their ADHD journey better, this episode provides both validation and practical wisdom. It's a masterclass in self-acceptance, boundary-setting, and the courage to live authentically despite societal pressures.The conversation concludes with a powerful reminder that while we can't change the past, we can make empowering choices today. It's an uplifting message that will resonate with listeners long after the episode ends. This thought-provoking discussion isn't just for those with ADHD - it's for anyone interested in understanding different perspectives on productivity, success, and personal growth in our fast-paced world. https:www.adhdfreedoms.com

In this compelling episode of the ADHD Freedoms podcast, hosts Clive Wilson and Ceri Boundy dive deep into the often-unexplored territories of neurodivergent living, societal expectations, and personal liberation. Their authentic dialogue offers valuable insights for anyone navigating life with ADHD or seeking to understand it better.The conversation brilliantly unpacks the concept of "thinking space" - a revolutionary perspective that transforms what many label as "paralysis" into a necessary and valuable part of the ADHD experience. As Boundy poignantly asks, "Are we allowed that thinking space in school? In relationships? At work?" This questioning challenges listeners to reconsider their own relationships with time and productivity.What makes this episode particularly powerful is its exploration of intergenerational patterns and societal conditioning. The hosts discuss how it takes four generations to break unhealthy expectations, while acknowledging the courage required to step away from familiar but restrictive patterns. Their discussion of breaking free from "familial generational expectations" offers hope and practical insights for listeners seeking their own path.The episode shines in its examination of personal agency and permission. As Wilson notes, "Who allows us and who disallows us at the end of the day?" This profound question cuts to the heart of self-empowerment and boundary-setting, especially relevant for those with ADHD who often struggle with external expectations.Perhaps most inspiringly, the conversation tackles the myth of "disarray" in ADHD lives. Through their discussion, the hosts reframe what others might see as chaos into what it truly is: innovation, creativity, and a different way of approaching life's challenges. Their honest exploration of these themes offers listeners a fresh perspective on embracing their unique neural wiring.For anyone feeling constrained by conventional expectations or seeking to understand their ADHD journey better, this episode provides both validation and practical wisdom. It's a masterclass in self-acceptance, boundary-setting, and the courage to live authentically despite societal pressures.The conversation concludes with a powerful reminder that while we can't change the past, we can make empowering choices today. It's an uplifting message that will resonate with listeners long after the episode ends.This thought-provoking discussion isn't just for those with ADHD - it's for anyone interested in understanding different perspectives on productivity, success, and personal growth in our fast-paced world.https:www.adhdfreedoms.com

A Ceri and Clive Chat About ADHD, Expectations, and Personal Growth

Join host Clive as he speaks with Natalia Aíza, LPC, a Colorado-based mental health specialist who brings both professional expertise and personal experience to the conversation about ADHD and OCD. In this revealing episode, Natalia shares her journey of discovering her own ADHD and OCD diagnoses in her mid-30s while already working as a therapist. She offers hope and practical insights about managing these conditions, discussing how ADHD medication changed her life while unexpectedly affecting her OCD symptoms. Natalia breaks down common misconceptions about OCD, explaining how it's far more than just hand-washing and checking behaviors, and shares powerful insights about the genetic components of the condition. She emphasizes the importance of proper diagnosis, the effectiveness of exposure response prevention therapy, and discusses how ADHD and OCD can interact. Whether you're seeking treatment, unable to access therapy, or simply looking to understand these conditions better, this episode offers valuable perspectives on embracing neurodiversity while finding effective ways to manage symptoms. www.kairoswellnesscollective.comwww.adhdfreedoms.com

Join host Clive as he speaks with Natalia Aíza, LPC, a Colorado-based mental health specialist who brings both professional expertise and personal experience to the conversation about ADHD and OCD. In this revealing episode, Natalia shares her journey of discovering her own ADHD and OCD diagnoses in her mid-30s while already working as a therapist. She offers hope and practical insights about managing these conditions, discussing how ADHD medication changed her life while unexpectedly affecting her OCD symptoms.Natalia breaks down common misconceptions about OCD, explaining how it's far more than just hand-washing and checking behaviors, and shares powerful insights about the genetic components of the condition. She emphasizes the importance of proper diagnosis, the effectiveness of exposure response prevention therapy, and discusses how ADHD and OCD can interact. Whether you're seeking treatment, unable to access therapy, or simply looking to understand these conditions better, this episode offers valuable perspectives on embracing neurodiversity while finding effective ways to manage symptoms.www.kairoswellnesscollective.comwww.adhdfreedoms.com

Natalia Aiza - Understanding & dealing with OCD, ADHD & intrusive thoughts

A candid and insightful episode where, host Clive Wilson sits down with guest Ceri Boundy to explore their personal experiences with ADHD traits. The conversation reveals contrasts in how ADHD characteristics manifest differently in different individuals and questions the, diagnosis, nature and identity of Neurodiversity.

A candid and insightful episode where, host Clive Wilson sits down with guest Ceri Boundy to explore their personal experiences with ADHD traits. The conversation reveals contrasts in how ADHD characteristics manifest differently in different individuals and questions the, diagnosis, nature and identity of Neurodiversity.

Clive & Ceri - Am I Neurodivergent, ADHD, or just different?

In this episode of ADHD Freedoms, host Clive sits down with Sam J-Price, a graphic designer and entrepreneur diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome and self-diagnosed with ADHD. Sam shares his personal journey, from early diagnosis to self-discovery, and discusses how he has learned to navigate the challenges and harness the unique strengths of his neurodivergent mind. Throughout the conversation, Sam and Clive explore topics such as the impact of labels, the importance of self-awareness, and the role of dopamine in the ADHD brain. Sam offers practical insights and strategies for managing overwhelm, breaking down tasks, and finding motivation through small wins. With humor and honesty, Sam describes his experiences as "authentically chaotic," embracing the ups and downs of life with ADHD and autism. His story serves as an inspiration for others who may be struggling with similar challenges, reminding listeners that they are not alone and that there is power in understanding and accepting one's unique mind. Sam also discusses his work as a brand designer and invites listeners to collaborate with him through his Chaotic Power Hour sessions (<a href="https://zcal.co/infuzioncreative/chaoticpowerhour" target="_blank">https://zcal.co/infuzioncreative/chaoticpowerhour</a>). He shares his passion for his greeting card business, Simply Sent (simplysent.co.uk), and encourages others to follow his journey on TikTok (@samjprice99), where he will be sharing more content about branding and being neurodivergent. During the episode, Sam highlights the impact of Ellie Middleton's book "Unmasked," which played a significant role in his self-discovery journey. You can find the book at <a href="https://www.waterstones.com/book/9780241651988?sv1=affiliate&sv_campaign_id=117976&awc=3787_1710254149_dfcdbc6dc9917b97908e7d1bf70226ca&utm_source=117976&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=Penguin+Books" target="_blank">Waterstones</a>.If you would like to be a guest on the ADHD Freedoms podcast or access additional resources related to this episode, please visit <a href="http://www.adhdfreedoms.com/" target="_blank">www.adhdfreedoms.com</a>. Join Clive and Sam for a thought-provoking and empowering discussion about living life to the fullest with ADHD and autism. Also check out some of Clive's other projects including: <ul><li><a href="https://getmeunstuck.today/" target="_blank">Get Me Unstuck</a></li><li><a href="https://thebigtherapyproject.com/" target="_blank">The Big Therapy Project</a></li><li><a href="https://dailychange.co.uk/" target="_blank">Daily Change</a></li><li><a href="https://likewhy.co.uk/" target="_blank">Like Why</a></li><li><a href="https://reflectivedating.com/" target="_blank">Reflective Dating</a></li><li><a href="https://selfdrivepsychology.com/" target="_blank">Self Drive Psychology</a></li><li><a href="https://www.chatbusiness.co.uk/" target="_blank">Chat Business</a></li><li><a href="https://www.therapywebdesigns.co.uk/" target="_blank">Therapy Web Designs</a></li></ul>

In this episode of ADHD Freedoms, host Clive sits down with Sam J-Price, a graphic designer and entrepreneur diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome and self-diagnosed with ADHD. Sam shares his personal journey, from early diagnosis to self-discovery, and discusses how he has learned to navigate the challenges and harness the unique strengths of his neurodivergent mind.Throughout the conversation, Sam and Clive explore topics such as the impact of labels, the importance of self-awareness, and the role of dopamine in the ADHD brain. Sam offers practical insights and strategies for managing overwhelm, breaking down tasks, and finding motivation through small wins.With humor and honesty, Sam describes his experiences as "authentically chaotic," embracing the ups and downs of life with ADHD and autism. His story serves as an inspiration for others who may be struggling with similar challenges, reminding listeners that they are not alone and that there is power in understanding and accepting one's unique mind.Sam also discusses his work as a brand designer and invites listeners to collaborate with him through his Chaotic Power Hour sessions (https://zcal.co/infuzioncreative/chaoticpowerhour). He shares his passion for his greeting card business, Simply Sent (simplysent.co.uk), and encourages others to follow his journey on TikTok (@samjprice99), where he will be sharing more content about branding and being neurodivergent.During the episode, Sam highlights the impact of Ellie Middleton's book "Unmasked," which played a significant role in his self-discovery journey. You can find the book at Waterstones.If you would like to be a guest on the ADHD Freedoms podcast or access additional resources related to this episode, please visit www.adhdfreedoms.com.Join Clive and Sam for a thought-provoking and empowering discussion about living life to the fullest with ADHD and autism.Also check out some of Clive's other projects including:Get Me UnstuckThe Big Therapy ProjectDaily ChangeLike WhyReflective DatingSelf Drive PsychologyChat BusinessTherapy Web Designs

Embracing the Authentic Chaos: Sam J-Price on Life with ADHD and Autism

Welcome to Episode 2 of the ADHD Freedoms Podcast, titled "Diagnosis and Routines". In this episode, we dive into the world of ADHD, diagnosis and the profound impact it can have on one's life. Our conversation with special guest Ceri, author of "The Clockmaker", sheds light on the journey of understanding and embracing neurodiversity, particularly in the context of a late diagnosis. Key Highlights: <ul><li>The Late Diagnosis Experience: Ceri shares her personal story of receiving an ADHD diagnosis later in life, describing how it brought clarity and understanding to her unique way of thinking and operating.</li><li>Internal vs External Routines: We discuss the significance of routines, both self-imposed and externally influenced, and how they affect individuals with ADHD differently.</li><li>The Five-Minute Rule: Delving into practical strategies, we highlight the 'five-minute rule' for managing tasks, an approach that can greatly reduce overwhelm and mental clutter.</li><li>The Role of Community: Emphasising the power of support groups and discussions, we explore how sharing experiences with others can foster a sense of belonging and shared understanding.</li><li>Self-Care and Well-being: The episode underscores the importance of self-care routines and making choices that prioritize personal well-being.</li></ul> Whether you're someone with ADHD, a friend, family member, or simply curious about the topic, this episode offers valuable insights and practical tips.Join Us: If this episode resonates with you, please like, subscribe, and share. Visit us at ADHD Freedoms.com for more resources and to be part of a growing community dedicated to making and celebrating positive change. Stay tuned for more enlightening discussions on the ADHD Freedoms Podcast!

Welcome to Episode 2 of the ADHD Freedoms Podcast, titled "Diagnosis and Routines". In this episode, we dive into the world of ADHD, diagnosis and the profound impact it can have on one's life. Our conversation with special guest Ceri, author of "The Clockmaker", sheds light on the journey of understanding and embracing neurodiversity, particularly in the context of a late diagnosis.Key Highlights:The Late Diagnosis Experience: Ceri shares her personal story of receiving an ADHD diagnosis later in life, describing how it brought clarity and understanding to her unique way of thinking and operating.Internal vs External Routines: We discuss the significance of routines, both self-imposed and externally influenced, and how they affect individuals with ADHD differently.The Five-Minute Rule: Delving into practical strategies, we highlight the 'five-minute rule' for managing tasks, an approach that can greatly reduce overwhelm and mental clutter.The Role of Community: Emphasising the power of support groups and discussions, we explore how sharing experiences with others can foster a sense of belonging and shared understanding.Self-Care and Well-being: The episode underscores the importance of self-care routines and making choices that prioritize personal well-being.Whether you're someone with ADHD, a friend, family member, or simply curious about the topic, this episode offers valuable insights and practical tips.Join Us: If this episode resonates with you, please like, subscribe, and share. Visit us at ADHD Freedoms.com for more resources and to be part of a growing community dedicated to making and celebrating positive change. Stay tuned for more enlightening discussions on the ADHD Freedoms Podcast!

Ceri and Clive - Neurodiversity, diagnosis and dealing with procrastination

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