With thanks to this week’s sponsor, Max Factor.Make-up artist and author Wendy Rowe joins me in this episode to talk candidly about having been an ambitious child who wanted to mingle with the greats - and how she made that happen, to explain how grief and losing her parents affected her, to discuss why she reveres eating healthily, and to share a fair few beauty tips - including the one Sienna Miller taught her.P.s. Wendy also brings up Elvis of her own volition. I didn't prompt or bride her in any way to do so, FYI.P.p.s. Do let me know if you too find the idea of meeting someone you fancy on a plane rather off-putting. Wendy and I were of one mind on the matter.Beauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Wendy Rowe

In this episode, I'm joined by beauty editors George Driver and Perdita Nouril, and PR Holly Hope Harper to discuss their career paths, how the beauty industry works (along with some of the pitfalls and perks), how bloggers and journalist's jobs intersect and where they diverge, and whether posts or pages in a magazine containing adverts can still have integrity. We also have a bit of a rant about anonymous websites which allow trolls to flourish, and discuss what we would change about the industry as a whole.Beauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Inside The Beauty Industry

'I would see not just in American media, but in Indian media, which actually hurts me more, that fair was considered beautiful. And it was the only thing considered beautiful. I felt like I had to look like that to ever be accepted or thought of as beautiful or to find friendship or love. I love my skin colour so much now that I really, really want girls, men, anyone growing up today to recognise that.'Deepica Mutyala knew from a young age that she would shrug off the expectations place on her and instead forge her own path. That vision - combined with a steely determination and courage to follow her gut instinct - propelled her up the career ladder which started in Ohio working at Victoria's Secret, and sees her currently at the helm of the community and cosmetics company, Live Tinted.In today's episode, we talk about how she has achieved so much so quickly, what the cost of working at that intensity is, how her parents responded to her not taking the route they'd hoped she might when younger, and why she decided she had to leave New York.Beauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Deepica Mutyala

‘These days everyone wants to put cameras everywhere. I refuse to have them in the dressing room, because that is sacrosanct. Those are the two hours where the person in the chair becomes the person that’s going to be in front of the camera that day. Sometimes that’s themselves, sometimes it’s somebody very different. It’s not just about the physical act of doing the hair and the make-up, it’s the psychological act of becoming.’ I’m joined by the legendary hair stylist Sam McKnight. Sam’s career has taken him all over the world and seen him work with every noteworthy publication, transforming the most high profile people going, including Princess Diana, with whom Sam worked for 7 years, during which time he famously created that iconic shorter, slicked back ‘do.In this episode, we talk about his journey from cleaning windows as a boy to being the most in demand hairdresser in the business, his enduring love of gardening (including how the scents of said garden have influenced his Hair by Sam McKnightrange), and how his job is as much about being a grounding confidante as it is about doing the hair itself.Beauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Sam McKnight

'I just feel a bit like "why do I think I'm entitled to look younger than I am?" I am 40. I don't actually want to look younger than I am, I just want to look like a good version of where I'm at. For me, botox would not be the path to looking like a good version of me now. I don't really mind if my friends or people I meet think "oh she looks her age." That doesn't freak me out. I just think "well, yeah, that's as it should be."'Singer-songwriter Sophie Ellis Bextor joins me on this episode to discuss her work and home life, including how she balances having five children with performing, realising that fake tan just didn't suit her, how she approached that huge burst of fame in her early 20s, and the joys of Julie Andrews, Grease, Elvis, and Phoebe Waller-Bridge.Beauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Sophie Ellis-Bextor

Leanne Pero founded her award-winning The Movement Factory in 2001 at the age of 15, which has to date impacted over 500,000 young people through its programmes. The catalyst for Leanne learning to dance was a period of abuse suffered while at the home she ended up fleeing at 13.In 2016, Leanne was diagnosed with cancer. During her treatment, she realised how underrepresented the BAME community were in the dialogue surrounding cancer - and how many misconceptions abounded. Her response was to found Black Women Rising UK, a lottery-funded project designed to raise awareness.Today, as well as working on those projects, Leanne is an author, the CEO of Pineapple Dance Studio’s charity, Pineapple Community, and has won scores of awards for her work.In this episode, Leanne discusses turning adversity into positive action, focussing on how she found inner resilience through tough times, the importance of processing trauma, and the power of beauty rituals when challenged.Beauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Leanne Pero

Bobbi Brown is a woman so synonymous with her the eponymous make-up brand she started in the early '90s, that it was somewhat surreal to be sitting with the real, human Bobbi Brown. In this episode she teases the two Bobbi's apart, talking about both how she made hers a household name for make-up before leaving the company three years ago, and the human endeavour behind it.We also talk about Bobbi’s life today, from her pared back approach to beauty (towards the end we look through her travel beauty stash and I was astonished at how minimal it was), why she decided her new company, Evolution 18, should focus on beauty from the inside out, and how she harbours a little crush on Lenny Kravitz.Beauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Bobbi Brown

Author, presenter, and founder of TRINNY LONDON joins me in this episode to talk about everything from growing up with acne while her older sister breezed through adolescence with spot-free skin, learning to loathe fake tan, managing an addiction to sugar, handling her mental health during challenges like IVF, tackling money issues, and the thrill of not knowing 'what's behind the closed door.'‘Your make-up can age you, and define the decade in which you felt your most beautiful. Taking away that protective thing is the hardest thing to do, but once you say “look, you can make yourself ageless by giving yourself a glowing skin, giving yourself that energy from within. Begin that process of exfoliation if you never do it, consider an acid, look at a retinol, protect your face from the sun, wear a white trainer with everything - you will look ageless suddenly, and then you will not be judged by decades in which you felt your happiest. Make this the happiest decade.’Products, and places, mentioned:Eve Lom CleanserNo 7 LipstickClinique 3 Step skincare routineErno LaszloShannon at Nicola Clarke's branch of John FriedaEvolve Gel Balm Cleanser Santa Maria Novella Pot PourriForeo LunaBiologique Recherche P50Julia Hunter Maximal Strength Night RegenerationAmeliorate Body LotionFaceGym ProNuFACE Microcurrent Facial Toning DeviceHeliocare SPFAllies of Skin Vitamin C 35%Colbert, Sloane SquareScott's, MayfairThe Wolseley, Picadilly Beauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Trinny Woodhall

'I feel uncomfortable with doing something interventionist to my body that means that it's somehow kind of disguising what I really am. I have a sort of Dorian Gray feeling about it, that you know somewhere this person, this old crone will be there underneath it all and you're wearing a kind of mask.'Journalist and former editor-in-chief of Vogue, Alexandra Shulman, joins me in this episode to discuss her life, and her 25 years at Vogue, candidly, touching on everything from the expectation to look a certain way, to panic attacks, maternity leave, fear of failure, and sizeism in magazines.She also talks about her renewed passion for make-up, her views on ageing, and how she came to curate a collection with No 7, which is currently available in shops.Products, and places, mentioned:- Molton Browners- No7 x Alexandra Shulman- Vaishaly Patel- Wildsmith Active Repair Nourishing Cleansing Balm- No7 Airbrush Away Primer- By Terry Terrybly Densiliss Concealer- Clinique Airbrush Concealer- Golbourne Road- Regent's Canal- Ida RestaurantBeauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee.This episode is sponsored by HiSmile. To receive 20% off HiSmile products, enter 'BEAUTYFULL' at check out at HISMILETEETH.COM For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Alexandra Shulman

‘As soon as you feel great, however that is presenting yourself - for me it’d be just having something on to feel a bit more polished in terms of my make-up - that impacts the way you present yourself. Yes, it’s kind of a shame that you feel “I need to have this make-up on to feel great”, but I think that’s overridden by the positives that would come from any interactions you’d have when you feel great.’Blogger and make-up artist Rose Gallagher is a much-loved figure in the beauty industry for both her candid approach to make-up and honesty about her battles with rosacea, and because she welcomes people in, encouraging them to find quick and easy beauty solutions under her tutelage.In this episode, we talk about the Irish roots that schooled her in the art of community, how interning and trying to get a job in magazines was financially challenging, the power of saying no, and how rosacea affects Rose's confidence.Products, and places, mentioned:- Peaches and Cream Liverpool- Talonted Lex - Hunsnet- Beauty From The Heart with Rose Gallagher- It Cosmetics Beauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Rose Gallagher

When road and track cyclist Dani Rowe and I first met, I was really struck by her candid nature and fascinated by her anecdotes about her extraordinary career as a thrice world champion and Olympic gold medallist, so felt she'd be a perfect fit for the show.Happily, she agreed to come on and in this episode talks openly about everything from meeting the Queen (the rules: no selfies, no questions), how she geared herself up to cycle in the Olympics (music played a role), the pay gap between men and women in cycling, and how working hard played a much bigger role in her success than native talent.Products, and places, mentioned:- Clinique Moisture Surge Sheertint Hydrator- Clinique Super City Block SPF 40- Lancome Teint Idole Ultra Wear Foundation- Lucas Papaw - Professor Steve Peters, The Chimp Paradox- Bobbi Brown Smokey Eyes Mascara- Blink Brow Bar- BBB London Clear Brow Gloss- Charlotte Tilbury Cheek to Chic in Ecstasy - Urban Decay Naked palettes- Bobbi Brown skincare- Jo Malone Pomegranate Noir- Jo Malone Poppy and Barley- MAC Velvet Teddy LipstickBeauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Dani Rowe MBE

As a budding (ahem) florist, Nikki Tibbles was often required to wake up very early in the morning and had little time and even less inclination to put on make-up.Fast forward 23 years, and Nikki's time is even more stretched; her Wild at Heart business is flourishing, and she's also at the helm of the Wild At Heart Foundation, which she founded in 2016, with the mission to bring an end to the world's 600 million stray dog problem by organising rescue projects, sterilising as many as possible, and educating people worldwide.(To date, the Wild At Heart Foundation has rehomed 1,175 dogs - one of whom is my rescue beagle/pointer, Monty, who hails from Cyprus and is utterly delightful - and sterilised a further 16,000.)In today's episode, Nikki discusses the childhood that set her up to be very driven, how she's harboured a love for animals throughout her life (she has throughout her life always owned at least one rescue dog, and has six today), which skincare she finds effective, how she'd choose David Gandy to come to her ideal dinner party, and her 35 piercings...Products, and places, mentioned:- Guerlain Mitsouko perfume- Timothy Han fragrances- Chanel Crystal Eau de Parfum- Miller Harris perfume- Barbara Sturm skincare- Apogii Notting hill- Drunk Elephant skincare- Charlotte Tilbury Flawless Filter, and Chic-to-Cheek blush- Maria Tash PiercingsBeauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Nikki Tibbles

Between straddling the roles of producer, mother, and designer of FROST yoga wear, it's little wonder that Sadie Frost has had to make an effort to prioritise creative and family time and therefore has a very streamlined and efficient routine.In today's episode, Sadie and I discuss that routine, along with how she balanced having a career with motherhood ('I’d get myself to a situation where things would be going really well and then I’d get pregnant again. But I’ve always been driven and I’ve never wanted to give up'), the challenges surrounding divorcing when you have children ('I think it’s just better to be friends with your ex and to be loving and wish them well even when you’re going through difficult times'), and letting the wrong people in ('I trusted people who were actually quite jealous and just wanted what I had so they screwed me over, and that hurt').We also discuss amongst other things her postnatal depression, how subsequent weight fluctuations affected her approach to food, and how her height was a double-edged sword.Products, and places, mentioned:- Clinique Dramatically Different Moisturiser- FaceGym- Lucas Paw Paw- Benefit Gimme Brow- Chanel Vitalumiere Foundation- Chanel No 5- Guerlain l’Heure Bleue- Triyoga- Everyman Belsize Park and Hampstead- Limonia RestaurantBeauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Sadie Frost

In the first of this season's bonus episodes, I’m joined by the award-winning beauty journalist Sam Silverand the fashion and celebrity stylist Gemma Rose Breger who jointly founded This Is Mothership, an online platform designed to share practical tips and tricks on beauty and fashion for busy mums.In today’s episode, we talk about how - and why - Sam and Gemma came to found This Is Mothership, their own pregnancy challenges, how having babies affected their careers, and they of course impart some wisdom on the best products around to tackle everything from lacklustre skin to bags under eyes.Products mentioned:NioxinThis Works In Transit No TracesSt Tropez Purity Face MistTan-Luxe Sleep OilBecca Under Eye Brightening CorrectorEstee Lauder Pure Colour Lipstick in EnviousSmashbox Always On LipstickEstee Lauder Pure Colour Lipstick Poppy SauvageVictoria Beckham for Estee Lauder Morning AuraChanel Les Beiges Eau de TeintGiorgio Armani Power Fabric ConcealerBecca Ultimate Coverage Longwear ConcealerClinique Pretty Easy Liquid Eyeliner PenBeauty Full Lives is hosted by Madeleine Spencer, produced by Charlie Jones, and with artwork by Sung Lee. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Sam Silver & Gemma Rose Breger on Motherhood & This Is Mothership

Make-up artist and beauty industry maverick Ruby Hammer MBE's story speaks of her innate chutzpah and inner conviction, and includes ditching plans to work for the UN n favour of make-up artistry after a chance encounter, hard graft while growing her career as a mum to a young daughter, and launching a huge brand while going through a divorce.Her advice to her younger self? ‘When I was young, I was always an optimist and I was pretty naive, and I think now I realise is that life is not all singalong and happy and you’re going not to be giddy and happy forever. Is it full of ups and down and let downs, whether they’re commercial, financial, emotional. I’ve lost my parents now, I’ve gone through a divorce so I would say to [a younger] me, “just be prepared, Ruby. And don’t lose sight of who you are; integrity means a lot.”'In this episode, we discuss the role of beauty and it's emotional impact on Ruby's life, her move from Nigeria to London, how she ended up going from helping at her mum's restaurant to a make-up artist creating looks for Vogue, Elle, and Marie Claire among others, and what having an MBE means to her. For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy

Ruby Hammer

Beauty Full Lives with Madeleine Spencer is a podcast exploring the relationship we have with beauty and the emotions that both products and our reflections evoke.Each week, a guest will discuss their life through the lens of beauty, touching on the rituals that have had resonance or a connection to key moments in their life.

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