Our Camino Tales series continues as we sit down with our pilgrim friend Diarmuid O'Reiley to discuss some of our shared adventures together on the Camino de Santiago.  Along the way Diarmuid shares a bit of his faith journey, the Lord's Prayer in Gaelic, as well as some political thoughts including an Irish perspective on America's fascination with Donald Trump.  My son Gabriel who walked our 2015 with Diarmuid also joins us in the interview. Go Beyond the Pale with Diarmuid O'Reilly! Episode Guide 1:10- (Intro) Steve in Covid quarantine 8:57 - Conversation begins & Guinness is opened 10:40-  Talking Camino De Santiago 22:05-  The Lord’s Prayer in Gaelic 23:01-  Going from Catholic to Charismatic 32:31-  An Irish perspective on Donald Trump 44:20-  When the truth loses it’s currency 49:32-  Reminiscing Camino times with Diarmuid 50:35-  Taking Communion on the Camino de Santiago 1:01:01: Pilgrim friends on the Camino

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Episode 124: Camino Tales (& Drinking Guinness) with Diarmuid O'Reilly

Keith Giles returns to Beyond the Pale to discuss his new book Jesus Unforsaken in which he argues the real Good News of Jesus has been replaced in much of today's church with a toxic message originating with John Calvin in the 1500s.  Keith explains why its crucial to return to the historic Christ-centered view of the cross that sets people free from sin and unveils a God of love who would rather die than live without us. Go Beyond the Pale with Keith Giles! Episode Index: 1:34- Intro with Steve 5:02- Conversation with Keith begins 8:06- Catching up with Keith since our last podcast together 12:53- What is "atonement" and why it's important 22:21- "To realise God is NOT a monster" 32:12- Alisa Childers and "progressive Christians" 33:56- Discussing a recent history of Christian "boogymen" 37:37- Labels and how followers of Jesus might identify themselves 42:26- Peace Catalyst podcast and building bridges with the Muslim community 52:45- How to choose the path that leads to peace with others

Episode 123: Jesus Unforsaken with Keith Giles

South China Morning Post and RTHK Radio 3 movie critic James Marsh sits down with Steve for their annual Academy Awards predictions.  Along the way we discuss the the nominees in the major categories, who we think WILL win vs. who SHOULD win, and why Brian Cox played a better Hannibal Lector than Anthony Hopkins. Go Beyond the Pale with James Marsh!   Episode Index: 1:13- Steve’s Intro 4:28- Interview begins / Small Talk 10:14- Best Actress in a Supporting Role 21:02- Best Actor in a Supporting Role 31:05- Best Actress in a Leading Role 38:10- Best Actor in a Lead Role 41:44 - (Tangent) Anthony Hopkins vs. Brian Cox as Hannibal Lector 46:44 - Best Actor discussion resumes 54:28- Best Director 1:10:39 - Best Picture  

Episode 122: Oscar Predictions 2021 with James Marsh

On today's episode Steve sits down with two of his good friends who are nominal Trump voters to help better understand why Christians seem fascinated with conspiracy theories and why they tend to fuel them rather than extinguish them.  Along the way we discuss Donald Trump, the Epoch Times, and how Christians can be conditioned into toxic patterns. Episode Index: 2:17- Intro with Steve 12:16- Was Portland destroyed by Black Lives Matter? 14:10- What does the "main stream media" report on? 21:35- What's on the horizon in "conspiracy land"? 33:24- Refusing a peaceful transfer of power brings violence 41:38- The trusty Epoch Times? 51:50- The habit to defend our Christian "tribe" 55:24- Why Christians struggle to believe Biden can do good 1:05:40- What we think about God matters

Episode 121: Why Christians are Embracing Conspiracy Theories with Jonathan Mellen & Casey Fanning

David Morgan joins us to discuss University of Chicago Political Science professor Eric Oliver's new book "Enchanted America: How Intuition & Reason Divide Our Politics".  Along the way David helps explain why many Americans are increasingly embracing bizarre conspiracy theories in an attempt to make sense of a complicated and changing world. Go Beyond the Pale with David Morgan! Episode Index: 1:25- Intro with Steve 7:07- Conversation with David begins 9:40- Why Americans are not divided by ideology but by thinking styles 17:00- Why the brain creates mental shortcuts to explain the world 28:28- Can you be a rationalist & believe in the Bible? 34:44- How people respond when they feel judged 47:30- Fragile masculinity leads to even more bizarre behaviour 57:28- Conspiracy theories are a reaction to fear    

Episode 120: Why Americans Are Embracing Conspiracy Theories with David Morgan

Filmmakers David & Kathi Peters sit down with Steve & Tammy to discuss their new documentary Postcards from Babylon which takes aim at the growing Christian Nationalism within American Evangelicalism.  Along the way they share about the impact of Donald Trump on the church, filming Brian & Peri Zahnd while on the Camino de Santiago, and the film's timely message of the Hope still to be found in embracing the Way Jesus proclaimed. Go Beyond the Pale with David & Kathi Peters! Episode Index: 1:38 - Intro with Steve & Tammy 10:35 - Conversation with David & Kathi begins 11:06- Growing up in the centre of Evangelical Christianity 20:29 - “In my house you couldn’t be a Christian and a Democrat” 31:12 - The “Postcards from Babylon” documentary 34:46 - Filming with Brian & Peri Zahnd on the Camino de Santiago 45:01- Tammy shares how the film moved her to tears 50:16- Filming Walter Brueggemann 54:55- Postcards from Babylon reminds the viewer there is hope

Episode 119: Postcards from Babylon with David & Kathi Peters

Pilgrim Bruce Ayling sits down with Steve to chat about their 2015 journey on the Camino de Santiago.  Along the way Bruce shares how his pilgrimage in Spain helped him to understand his Christian faith in a deeper way. Go Beyond the Pale with Bruce Ayling!  Episode index 1:40- Intro with Steve & Tammy 7:40- Conversation with Bruce begins 13:33- Learning to see God as a Father 26:44 - Doing the Camino in segments 30:33- Highlight of Bruce's Camino de Santiago 40:04- Future "bucket list" pilgrimages  

Episode 118: Camino Tales with Bruce Ayling

Author Paul Ellis returns to talk about his new book "The Silent Queen" and why the church needs women to find their voice.  Along the way Paul shares historically how we got to this place of sanctioned gender discrimination in the church and what God's original plan was and can still be. Go Beyond the Pale with Paul Ellis Episode Index: 1:14 - Intro with Steve & Tammy 10:30 - Discussion with Paul begins 15:45 - Background to "The Silent Queen" 24:20- How Aristotle and Plato's sexist ideas infected the early church 27:25 - We think we're not sexist, but we are 38:15 - Tammy explains why women remain silent in the church 48:30 Paul explains why we can often support sex discrimination in the church wrongly believing it's God's plan

Episode 117: "The Silent Queen" And Why The Church Needs Women To Find Their Voice with Paul Ellis

On today's episode Steve has a conversation an old friend, Steve Bowens, on issues surrounding race issues in America and specifically the Black Lives Matter movement   Along the way Steve, who is an African-American educator from Colorado, also shares how his Christian faith has shaped him not only in his approach to race relations but in all areas of his life's journey. Go Beyond the Pale with Steve Bowens Episode Index 1:35 - Intro with Steve & Tammy 12:24 - Conversation with Steve Bowens begins 18:35 - Steve shares his Christian faith journey 27:10 - When the church gets partisan 35:24 - Discussing Black Lives Matter 50:00 - Positive ways forward in race relations

Episode 116: Black Lives Matter with Steve Bowens

Dave Griffiths and Rob Grayson return to Beyond the Pale to discuss what a healthy deconstruction and eventual reconstruction in faith might look like.  Along the way we discuss Creeds, politics, racism, gender inequality, and why Christianity seems the one area where its OK to NOT grow up! Get Ready to Go Beyond the Pale with Rob Grayson & Dave Griffiths! Episode Index: 1:20-  Introduction with Steve & Tammy 5:25- Conversation begins 12:05- Race & Gender in 2020 14:46- Defining modernity and “post”- modernity 22:59- Do Creeds create a static world view? 33:45- Detaching our faith from politics 45:38- Is what you believe proven by how you live? 1:02:00- When Christians learn to grow up

Episode 115: A Healthy Deconstruction & Reconstruction with Rob Grayson & Dave Griffiths

My brother Andrew returns during a hot elections season to talk about the two subjects you aren't suppose to talk about in polite conversation; politics and religion.  Along the way we discuss abortion, nationalism, and spell Trump holds over many American Christians. Get Ready To Go Beyond The Pale with Andrew Hackman!

Episode 114: Politics & Religion with Andrew Hackman

Steve was interviewed on Hong Kong's Radio 3 "Morning Brew" show to discuss his 1,100 mile Via Francigena pilgrimage and the upcoming memoir chronicling the journey!  

Bonus Episode: Interview with Steve on RTHK Radio 3 "Morning Brew" Show

Actor Jason Tobin who stars in the hit TV show Warrior sits down with Steve & Tammy to share his acting journey; the highs, the lows, the frustrations, the lucky breaks, and the perseverance that helped get him to where he is now. Along the way Jason shares what it was like to grow up in Hong Kong, the power of a teacher to inspire, his love of Story, and even our mutual desire to see Hong Kong's airport renamed Bruce Lee International. Go Beyond the Pale with Jason Tobin!   Episode Index: 8:14: Conversation with Jason begins 8:36- Stories from the set of the TV series Warrior 26:40: The Bruce Lee connection to Warrior 28:18: Working with The Fast & The Furious director Justin Lin 32:29: Growing up in Hong Kong 34:12- The power of an inspiring teacher 39:12- Moving to Los Angeles at 18 44:00- Starting at the bottom: Being an "Extra" 52:52- When your dreams imprison you 54:30- Love of martial arts 1:00:50- Becoming a filmmaker 1:12:13- Jason's belief in the power of story  

Episode 113: The Journey of Jason Tobin

Long time friend Kit Tso shares a meal with Steve & Tammy and with the help of a little Scotch and Irish whiskey discuss faith, humanity, God, and the advantages of bringing "reason" into one's spiritual journey. Along the way Kit shares some funny anecdotes of riding a motorcycle from London to Belfast! Go Beyond the Pale with Kit Tso! Episode Index: 3:40 Conversation with Kit starts 11:32  Driving a motorcycle to Belfast 25:04  What do we really believe? 38:46 Processing Faith 43:00  Circular or linear spiritual path? 53:00 Applying reason in faith 1:00:20  Connecting faith to real life

Episode 112: Whiskey & Theology with Kit Tso

Gary Brightman is a Hong Kong based writer and filmmaker who shares his story of turning some of the dreams into realities. Dreams like moving to Hong Kong, attending film school, making documentaries, and finally opening Vibe, the coolest used book and vinyl record store in the city. Go Beyond the Pale with Gary Brightman! Episode Index: 1:33- (Intro) Steve & Tammy discuss staycation in Hong Kong 8:28- Conversation with Gary Brightman begins 15:00- Gary is “bit” by the Hong Kong bug 19:42- Paying the bills vs. following your dream 21:08 - Going to film school 28:56- Opening a book and music store 31:02- “Vibe” as a community space

Episode 111: Making Your Dreams a Reality with Gary Brightman

Beyond the Pale is a subversively sincere exploration of God, faith, life and culture hosted by former pastors and missionaries Steve & Tammy Hackman. It's a podcast for that person who finds more fulfillment in the journey than in the destination and doesn't mind coloring outside the lines a bit! Join us each week as we travel on pilgrimage together. We'll ask questions, question answers, and open a bottle of wine with you as we do. (Not a particularly good wine mind you, just one Tammy says we can afford)

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