August 9 marked the 40th anniversary of Fr. McCarthy&apos;s ordination. This is a recording of the homily he gave at his first Divine Liturgy (Mass) on September 13, 1981, previously heard only by the people who were there. It tells the story of an incredible 20-year journey that led a Roman Catholic boy from Boston to being ordained by Patriarch Maximus V as a married priest of the Melkite Rite on August 9, 1981 in Damascus, Syria; but even more importantly, it is the story of a God who knows each person intimately and loves each person infinitely.  Transcript of the homily can be found here: https://www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.o...Fr. McCarthy&apos;s related materialAugust 9 (book): (link coming soon)Pondering a Miracle (essay/reflection): https://www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.o...Also on CAM: Episode 13: The Miracle of Edith Stein: https://youtu.be/s1VLV1m1hRAEpisode 1: Author Interview with Rev. Charles McCarthy: https://youtu.be/M8LTAoheRpgFind Fr. McCarthy here: www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.orgFind CAM:  www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171

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Episode 54: Fr. McCarthy's First Homily

Guests Brian Jobe and Jordan Almanzar join us for a freewheeling conversation on the Catholic scholar Rene Girard, his thoughts and theories, and how we see them reflected in the world today. Dr. Jordan Almanzar earned his Ph.D. in History and Literature of Ancient Christianity from Georg-August-Universität in Göttingen, Germany. He currently teaches Latin and Greek at Magdalen College and Kolbe Academy.Brian Jobe studied Classics at the University of Washington and the University of California at Santa Barbara. His writing has been published at National Review Online, Korrektiv Press, Letter X Magazine, and Dappled Things. 10:14 Girard and Politics---two words for enemy: "inimicus" and "hostis"--Who is my enemy?18:40 The Two Tyrannies-- Satan as victim21:57 Just War Theory---escalation to extremes---categories of enemies--why Girard was rejected by so many Catholics28:52 Is violence the last taboo? Or do we minimize it?38:34 "History has meaning, and that meaning is terrifying."--skapegoating44:00 Loss of distinctions---unsanctioned violence49:00 Jumping in the river to avoid the rain54:40 Supra-Christianity59:53 "They know not what they do."1:07:24 Recommendations for those who want to learn more about Rene GirardFor an introduction to Girard, try this 5-part radio series by the Canadian Broadcasting Company, which includes an interview with Girard: https://auticulture.com/the-skapegoat-rene-girard-cbc-series-mp3-downloads/Books by Brian Jobe: Birds Nest in Your Hairhttps://www.amazon.com/Birds-Nest-Your-Hair-Brian/dp/0983151318/Words of the Day: Doggerelhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0983151334/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tpbk_p1_i0?pldnSite=1Books by Dr. Jordan Almanzar: He Whom a Dream Hath Possessed: The Life and Works of the American John Knoxhttps://www.amazon.com/Whom-Dream-Hath-Possessed-Urchristentums-ebook/dp/B07QNGRJ8YWhen the Earth was Flat: One Boy&apos;s Life at the Edge of the Millennium(memoir, forthcoming...)Find CAM here:  https:/www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171​

Episode 53: Rene Girard and Politics

Fr. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy joins us to answer this important and thought-provoking question: Should a Christian vote?0:00 Intro4:39 The Smothers BrothersPART 18:22 The perspective Fr. McCarthy is coming from11:53 Does Fr. McCarthy vote? Why or why not? 19:55 Clinton vs. Bush, 1992 (example)25:13 The critical thing in society--crimes against humanity--the Patriot Act29:55 Concluding thoughtsPART II30:23 What is the nature of government? -- Leo Tolstoy (quote)--Carl J. Friedrich, Professor of Government at Harvard U. (quote)39:32 Is this "Christian anarchism"?44:47 Should no one have this kind of authority over others?47:29 What about Section 2240 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church?--the word "authority"54:11 The U.S. Constitution and the Gospel--the balance of powers1:01:08 Summing upFind Fr. McCarthy here: www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.orgFind CAM:  http://www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171

Ep. 52: Should a Christian vote? Parts 1 & 2

Writer and former professor Edward Curtain joins us to talk about his research into the events of September 11th, some similarities we see with COVID today, and his new book, "Seeking Truth in a Country of Lies." 0:00 Edward&apos;s background2:00 Trump and foreign policy11:35 Similarities between COVID and Sept. 11th15:35 "Science!"21:22 "Conspiracy theories!"---The Kennedy&apos;s and the CIA30:30 More echoes of Sept. 11th38:22 The body as mediator of reality46:17 Story from a local Catholic parish50:15 From Marine to conscientious objector57:25 Edward&apos;s new bookFind Edward Curtain here: http://edwardcurtin.comFind CAM:  www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171Also mentioned on the podcast: "Seeking Truth in a Country of Lies" book by Edward Curtain"The New Pearl Harbor Revisited: 9-11, the Cover-up, and the Expose" by David Ray Griffin"The Martyrdom of Thomas Merton," by Hugh Turley and David Martin"The Coming War with China" documentary"American Values: Lessons I Learned from My Family" by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. "Chasing the Light" by Oliver Stone

Episode 51: COVID and Sep. 11

Seventy-five years ago, during the Second World War, Fr. George Zabelka was the Catholic chaplain for the 509th composite group, the group that dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In the mid-1970's, Fr. Zabelka repented for the role he played in the Second World War and became a public advocate of Christian nonviolence. No Catholic publication in the late '70s was interested in publishing the story of his conversion. Even after his story became internationally known in the '80s and a documentary was made, no American t.v. station, either Catholic or secular, was interested in televising it. This podcast tells the story of George Zabelka from the perspective of his friend, Fr. Emmanuel Charles McCarthy. Hear about the rocky start to their relationship, George's virtues of faithfulness and courage, their lunch with Charlie Sweeney (the Catholic who dropped the bomb on Nagasaki), and some of the fruits that came from Fr. Zabelka's work towards the end of his life. Note: Parts 1, 3, and 5 focus on George. Parts 2 and 4 digress but provide helpful context and more food for thought.Part 1  0:00 - 1:14:55Part 2  1:14:56 - 1:39:30Part 3  1:39:31 - 2:09:47Part 4  2:09:48 - 2:43:47Part 5  2:43:48 - endTo further explore this topic, the following are recommended: "Blessing the Bombs," article by George Zabelka"A Military Chaplain Repents," interview by Fr. McCarthy (originally published in Sojourners)"The Reluctant Prophet" documentary (1989)"August 9," booklet by Fr. McCarthy"Conversation on Christian Nonviolence" with Fr. George Zabelka, Fr. McCarthy, and Mairead Corrigan McGuire"The Church a Fold of Lambs," talk given in "Behold the Lamb" by Fr. McCarthy"The Miracle of Edith Stein," Episode 13 of the CAM podcastFind Fr. McCarthy and "Behold the Lamb" here: www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.orgwww.centerforchristiannonviolence.orgFind CAM here:  Find us at : www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comFind our podcast/RSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171

Episode 50: Fr. George Zabelka, Catholic Chaplain, 1945

What if someone is trying to kill your wife and kids? Are Christians supposed to stand by and do nothing? No! Fr. McCarthy uses a story about Clarence Jordan in the 1940&apos;s to demonstrate how nonviolent love is neither passive nor powerless. It is a skill that requires practice and creativity. Jordan found himself in a situation that was not entirely unlike the situation many Catholics feel they are beginning to find themselves in today, in the summer of 2020. Though the details aren&apos;t exactly the same, the same dynamics seem to be at work, and Christians are facing the same kinds of choices he faced then with regard to the use of violence.0:00 Intro by Ellen2:47 What would you do if...?14:00 Clarence Jordan and Koinonia FarmFind Fr. McCarthy&apos;s materials here:https://www.centerforchristiannonviolence.org/index.php/resources/audio-files"Briars in the Cotton Patch: The Story of Kononia Farm"https://youtu.be/u336LXW2d-c"The Cotton Patch Evidence: The Story of Clarence Jordan and the Koinonia Farm Experiment (1942-1970)https://www.amazon.com/Cotton-Patch-Evidence-Clarence-Experiment/dp/1610976428/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=clarence+jordan&qid=1595445175&s=books&sr=1-5Find the CAM podcast here:  www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171

Episode 49: Nonviolent Love is Active and Creative

Fr. Mark educates us about teaching on war in the Orthodox Church. Along the way, we also discuss: Russia&apos;s new "military cathedral,"  Koinoinia Farm, Mikhail Kalashnikov (the inventor of the AK-47), and the connection between war and the American funeral industry.0:00 Fr. Mark&apos;s background7:00 Russian Orthodox Church and the new military cathedral10:40 History of the Orthodox Church13:28 Teaching on war in the Orthodox Church21:06 What steps could the churches take to return to the nonviolent Way of Jesus Christ?30:58 Is all life sacred?41:18 Kalashnikov rifle47:19 Christ tramples down death by deathFind Fr. Mark here: http://www.korbanworkshop.comFind the CAM podcast here:  www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171

Episode 48: Interview with Fr. Mark Korban, Orthodox priest

Fr. McCarthy joins us to talk about: 0:00 Who is worthy of life?14:41 Another, more fundamental question20:23 The Christian's choiceFind Fr. McCarthy here: www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.orgwww.centerforchristiannonviolence.orgFind the CAM podcast here:  www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171

Episode 47: Who is worthy of life?

Ellen provides some commentary on the #DefendOurChurches movement.0:00 Intro3:41 The two streams of tradition5:38 What the dudes are saying Catholics should do16:25 A critique of what the dudes are saying19:38 The "Just Defense" mentality runs rampant29:06 A Pinterest conspiracy?30:28 "There is a war on Christianity" -- Taylor Marshall32:12 What's this about blood?Find the CAM podcast here:  www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171Also mentioned on the podcast:Donate to Timothy Gordon at his website here:https://donorbox.org/timothy-gordonA Harvest of Justice is Sown in Peacehttp://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catholic-social-teaching/the-harvest-of-justice-is-sown-in-peace.cfmBehold the Lambhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLExfYuh4OTPv4gWqqfZSbA8iFdnaH_BBC

Episode 46: The Place Where the Three Roads Meet, Part II

In this episode, Ellen analyzes sixteen lines from Sophocles&apos; play Oedipus Rex, and wonders if the pagans understood the nature of violence better than we do.0:00 Intro2:08 Background to the play5:03 Oedipus&apos;s narration of what happened at the place where three roads meet20:41 Oedipus&apos;s later claim of self-defense24:59 Key points of reflection30:03 Two personal anecdotesFind the CAM podcast here:  www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171

Episode 45: The Place Where the Three Roads Meet, Part I

How are they alike? How are they different? Is Gospel Nonviolence an option or an obligation? Does one have to be a Christian to love like Christ?0:00 Intro3:20 Gandhi, Jesus and Tolstoy8:41 The problem that arises13:46 Love and fear16:58 What is fear?21:11 Jesus and fear27:46 A lesson from the life of St. Theresa of Lisieux31:14 The two big differences37:27 Ending on a controversial note40:05 Questions and Thoughts---Participation in police/military and conscientious objection---The Infallibility Decree of 1870---Is Gospel Nonviolence an option or an obligation?---Can only Christians love like Christ?Find Fr. McCarthy here: https://www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.orghttps://www.centerforchristiannonviolence.orgFind CAM here:  https://www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: https://www.buzzsprout.com/296171Mentioned in the podcast: "The Kingdom of God is Within You," by Leo Tolstoy"Gandhi on Nonviolence," by Thomas Merton

Episode 44: Jesus and Gandhi

Ellen investigates some intriguing footnotes on the Visitation of Mary (as told in the Gospel of Luke) and reads aloud from an essay written in 2016 called "Matriot or Patriot?" Covered: feminism, beheadings, World War I, wandering wombs, Mother's Day/Month, female Secretaries of State, recent popes on war, Beyonce/torture, and more. Find the CAM podcast here:  www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171Also mentioned in this video:"Women and War" by Ellen Finniganhttps://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/05/ellen-finnigan/women-war/Memorializing Motherhood: Anna Jarvis and the Struggle for Control of Mother's Dayhttps://www.amazon.com/Memorializing-Motherhood-Struggle-VIRGINIA-APPALACHIA/dp/1938228936?imprToken=TWVcmnrCKEqDcW2gMbSLCw&slotNum=0&SubscriptionId=AKIAI63WS3YGA3Y5U2QA&tag=lrc18-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=1938228936

Episode 43: Women and War

On May 21, the feast day of Blessed Franz Jagerstatter, Fr. McCarthy joins us to tell us his thoughts on the film "A Hidden Life" (2019). Did the film portray the "real" Franz? Why can Franz be considered, not just a prophet of the Church, but a prophet to the Church? And why is his feast day on the day of his baptism instead of the day of his death? Find Fr. McCarthy here: www.emmanuelcharlesmccarthy.orgwww.centerforchristiannonviolence.orgFind CAM here:  www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171

Episode 42: What was hidden in "A Hidden Life"?

The United States has reached an impasse: Either end the draft entirely, and abolish the Selective Service system, or expand the draft to include women. Edward Hasbrouck joins us today to explain the outcome of last year's National Commission on Military, National, and Public Service (NCMNPS) and to inform us about the bill to abolish the draft (H.R.5492), as well as the possibility of a medical draft in the near future if the draft is not abolished.Go here to send a letter to your representatives in favor of H.R. 5492:https://worldbeyondwar.org/repeal/Go here to send a letter to your representatives in favor of H.R. 5492:https://worldbeyondwar.org/repeal/0:00 The "stalemate" on the draft since the early 80s10:33 The 2019 NCMNPS--where things stand now--the bill that has been introduced in Congress17:04 The many objections to the draft20:30 H.R.5492 to abolish the draft22:32 a Medical Draft26:25 Conscientious objection28:24 The fantasy of limitless power32:05 The "sexist, pro-war perspective"34:50 Feminists in favor of requiring women to register36:46 The "poverty draft" (and the pandemic)37:42 How the existence of the draft shapes military planning38:48 What you can do40:42 Edward has faith in the young!Find Edward Hasbrouck here: https://www.resisters.infohttps://www.hasbrouck.orgFind CAM here:  https://www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171Also mentioned in this podcast:H.R. 6415 - "Inspire to Serve Act of 2020"https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6415

Episode 41: Women and the Draft

In his recently published memoir "Writing Straight With Crooked Lines" (2020), Jim Forest writes about growing up during the Cold War the child of two Communists, his struggles with marriage, and his spiritual quest, which led him to working with Dorothy Day at the Catholic Worker in the early sixties and to befriending some of the twentieth century's most famous spiritual leaders, including Thomas Merton, Phil and Daniel Berrigan, and Thich Nhat Hanh. Jim spent over a year in jail for protesting the Vietnam War, and he co-founded the Catholic Peace Fellowship with Tom Cornell (still in operation today), which helped thousands of Catholics to register their dissent as conscientious objectors during the Vietnam War. But that's just the beginning. This interview wasn't nearly long enough, but Nancy had made dinner, and well, it was growing cold, so we covered what we could! He joins us from his home in Alkmaar, The Netherlands. Find Jim Forest and his wife Nancy here: https://jimandnancyforest.comFind CAM here:  https://www.catholicsagainstmilitarism.comRSS feed: http://www.buzzsprout.com/296171Also mentioned on this podcast: "Writing Straight with Crooked Lines" by Jim Forest (2020)https://www.amazon.com/Writing-Straig..."The Ladder of the Beatitudes" by Jim Foresthttps://www.amazon.com/Ladder-Beatitu..."Catholics and Conscientious Objection" (1966) by Jim Forest https://jimandnancyforest.com/2015/08..."The Root of War is Fear," by Jim Foresthttps://www.amazon.com/Root-War-Fear-..."The Root of War is Fear," article by Thomas Merton can be found in "The New Seeds of Contemplation"https://issuu.com/samzdat/docs/passio...

Episode 40: Interview with Jim Forest

Catholics Against Militarism (CAM) is an informal, grassroots, Internet-based movement of lay Catholics that seeks to identify and respectfully challenge militaristic attitudes in the U.S. Catholic Church. We conduct interviews with Catholics and other Catholic groups who are: 1) successfully registering dissent at the parish level, 2) raising awareness of the dangers of militarism through dialogue with fellow believers, and 3) spurring deeper, more honest reflection on the role of violence in our world.

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