Lucy Bull makes visceral paintings that appeal directly to the senses. Synesthetic fields of shape and color, the paintings are described in sonic, tactile, or even emotional terms that evade rational logic and are unique to each viewer. Worlds take shape across their varied surfaces and just as quickly fall away again; similarly, just when the act of looking generates optical overload or disruptive dissonance, Bull’s accumulations of marks reveal discernible traces of planning and hard-fought negotiations with her materials, leading the viewer back toward the concrete realities of pigment, medium, and surface. As she engages in these open-ended painterly experiments, Bull makes room for both precision and abandon, inviting viewers to participate in ever-unfinished processes of creation that she choreographs but never fully controls. Born in New York in 1990, Bull now lives and works in Los Angeles. She and I discuss planning to be late, being seated next to each other at a gallery dinner, having your preferences taken into consideration, care and curiosity, talking AT artwork, what photography misses, short circuiting someone else’s perspective, the speed of looking at art, being a graveyard shift worker, stolen time, loving doing what you love, what is foolish, the importance of fun and experimentation, a tabletop exhibition space, weird intimacy, hermit crabs, easing into working, wandering through paintings, and transferring the experiencing of making them! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

Conversations About Art

75. Lucy Bull

Joost Bosland is one of the thirteen owners of Stevenson, a gallery with spaces in Cape Town and Johannesburg, and an office in Amsterdam. He has been with the gallery since a three-month internship in 2005. Among the artists Bosland works closely with at the gallery are Nicholas Hlobo, Moshekwa Langa, Zanele Muholi, Robin Rhode, and Viviane Sassen. Stevenson opened in 2003, and currently represents 31 artists and employs 34 people. In the absence of local institutions dedicated to contemporary art, from 2005 to 2015 the gallery was instrumental in bringing international artists to South Africa, often for the first time. He and Zuckerman discuss unrealized projects, being at it for a long time, the art world as a way of imagining a better world, making 2+2=5, existing outside of traditional centers, collective ownership, changing power dynamics, the art of being a gallerist, the A word, the nuance of representing the complex geography of Africa, soaking in people, Art Basel, finding people who need your skill set, mentors, and making the world a better place! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

74. Joost Bosland

Sophie Chahinian is a filmmaker and the founder of the The Artist Profile Archive (TAPA). TAPA produces short artist documentary profiles on contemporary artists to create an archive thereby making contemporary art more accessible to wider audiences. All the films are  available for free on TAPA’s website and social media channels. Her recent documentary profiles include Alexandra Grant and Robert Longo. Growing up in Los Angeles, Chahinian became interested in independent film production through her work with Light and Space artist Eric Orr in the late 1990s. She and Zuckerman discuss the creativity of the kitchen, the effortful and effortless, commitments, discipline and schedules, changing perspectives, “just fine,” the types of questions we ask, democratizing access to art, transcendence found in art, becoming an expert, understanding who we are, the concept of the oneness, art as seduction, and defining the parameters of our own humanity! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

73. Sophie Chahinian

Shlomi Rabi is a twenty-year veteran of the auction world.  Most recently he held the position of Vice President, Head of the Photographs Department for the Americas at Christie’s, where he oversaw a record number of single-owner auctions.  During his tenure in the auction industry, Shlomi closely worked on multiple institutional collaborations, which included the Museum of Modern Art, New York; Art Institute of Chicago; Aperture Foundation, and Elton John AIDS Foundation. As an immigrant from the Middle East raised in Central America, Shlomi’s passion for the arts is informed by his desire to champion and empower creatives whose vision and voices are too often marginalized. He and Zuckerman discuss decompressing, magical places, recommendations, a vision of safe spaces, being comfortable in your own head, meditation, doing pull-ups, doing something for yourself in complete silence, mental intimacy, the privilege of making plans, manifesting emotions, patience, building a green auction house, being motivated to change the cannon, empowering artists individually, and scholarships for art history students! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

72. Shlomi Rabi

Casey Reitz is President of the Segerstrom Center of the Arts, a multi-disciplinary cultural institution in Costa Mesa, CA, appointed in 2019. Since 2010, Reitz served as Executive Director of Second Stage Theater in New York City, winning a Tony Award as Best Musical Producer of Dear Evan Hansen in 2017, and where he successfully led the acquisition, renovation and re-opening of Broadway’s Helen Hayes Theater. With the launching of the Hayes, Second Stage became only the 4th non-profit with a permanent home on Broadway. Prior to Second Stage, Reitz was the Director of Development at The Public Theater. He holds an MFA in Theater Management from Yale University and a BA in Theatre from the University of Alabama. He and I discuss watching the audience, experiencing the great works, suspension of disbelief, the draw of Southern California, the town square, having broad and vast ambition, being afraid to leave New York, how every detail matters, taking your work seriously, being an artist, bringing people joy, not maintaining the status quo, fabulous failures, letting things be quiet, and the beauty and courage of creativity! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

71. Casey Reitz

Cathy Kimball served as Executive Director and Chief Curator of the San Jose Institute of Contemporary Art (ICA) for twenty years and planned her retirement as the ICA turned 40 in 2020. She is curating the Marcus Lyon project, "De.Coded: A Human Atlas of Silicon Valley" by the Packard Foundation, scheduled for 2022 at the ICA. Previously she held curatorial roles at the San Jose Museum of Art and the New Jersey Center for the Arts. She and I discuss defining a curatorial legacy, knowing who to listen to, balancing a career and a life, prioritizing family, graceful exits, mentoring a team, serving a community, and how good it feels to create a space for artists! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

70. Cathy Kimball

Aparajita Jain is the co-director of Nature Morte Art Limited since 2012, when she bought a controlling interest in the leading contemporary art gallery. She is also the Founder of terrain.art, India’s first blockchain powered art platform and co-founder of India’s first international sculpture park with the Government of Rajasthan, in Jaipur. She was listed as one among eight influential women in the Indian art world by ARTSY, one of 30 influential women in the art world by ELLE magazine, amongst the 51 art people changing the art world by Observer and amongst the top 100 creatives in India by Harper's Bazaar. She and Zuckerman discuss working in the arts in India, different realities, whether all artists should be judged by the same standards, taking chances, artists as activists, NFTs as social equalizers, developing a virtual eco system for the arts and democratizing art in India, that it is ok to upset people, being at the edge of the past and the future, the art scene in Delhi, dialogues, whether there is a separate Indian paradigm, the gift of art, how to attract the most amount of people to art, the power of art to change people, art and transcendence, how to experience the infinite and feel connected to life, our souls, what is the worst that can happen in the presence of art, what is next, twenty-two minute meditation, and the importance of context! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

69. Aparajita Jain

Sonja Hoel Perkins invests in people and companies that matter.  She is the founder of The Perkins Fund, Project Glimmer and Broadway Angels.  Project Glimmer inspires every girl to envision and realize her empowered future.  Broadway Angels is a network of top female venture capitalists and entrepreneurs.  Sonja has been a venture capitalist for over 30 years and was named one of the “Top Most Powerful People in Global Finance”.  Sonja serves on the boards of Mercy BioAnalytics, Project Glimmer, The Pristine Mind Foundation and The Center for Politics at The University of Virginia. She and Zuckerman discuss being included, letting your mind rest, happiness as a choice, being honorable, trusting your gut, buying art that hurts a little bit, not needing to be the expert, how hard work is a habit, a sense of connected decisions, paying attention, being kind to yourself, and how your number one advocate is yourself!! Please check out: https://www.projectglimmer.org/ *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

68. Sonja Hoel Perkins

Kemi Ilesanmi has been a DMV clerk, receptionist, business school dropout, Minnesota State Fair ribbon winner, museum curator, foundation officer, and now Executive Director of The Laundromat Project, a NYC arts nonprofit that advances artists and neighbors as change agents in their own communities. She cares about cultural and community care, #BlackLivesMatter, and all things Obama. She and Zuckerman discuss issues of well-being and taking a sabbatical, what makes you a happier person, actual and false urgency, bringing people together, purpose and what makes sense, showing ourselves to ourselves, defining what love means, the superpower of being vulnerable, what questions we ask, naming, allowing emotion to be part of the work, and love as a radical place of power! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

67. Kemi Ilesanmi

Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn is a gallerist, art advisor, and independent curator. A fierce activist, she is committed to feminist and progressive ideas and a belief in art’s power to bring about social change. Greenberg Rohatyn founded her first gallery space in 2002, later adding venues on the Bowery in 2007 and 2010. Known for breaking hierarchies between design and high art, in 2017, she founded Salon 94 Design. She has championed artists such as Huma Bhabha, Judy Chicago, Katy Grannan, David Hammons, Lyle Ashton Harris, and Betty Woodman among many others. She and Zuckerman discuss a shared love of architecture, growing up in a house of art, being a practicing feminist, hiding in the bathroom with Andy Warhol, the goal and impact of “see better”, the relationship of art and justice, how we want story tellers now, loving looking at art, being elegant in transitions, exhibition making, being a business partner to artists, how she chooses artists, learning from her father, how art needs a lot of help! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

66. Jeanne Greenberg Rohatyn

Magnus Resch is an art-market economist, serial entrepreneur, and bestselling author, as well as a Professor for art management, lecturing at Yale University. He holds a Ph.D. in economics and studied at Harvard, the LSE and University of St. Gallen. His career has been portrayed in a Harvard Business School case study and in various articles with the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Vanity Fair, and the Financial Times. He and I discuss the difference between the art world and the art market, why artists should spend less time in their studios, finding a niche, how to make money, talent not mattering, the subjectiveness of art, collecting art at the age of 16, 100 secrets of the art world, that 90% of all artwork costs less than $10,000, and at what value art can be considered an investment! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

65. Magnus Resch

Beth Pickens is a Los Angeles-based consultant for artists and arts organizations. Since 2010 she has provided career consultation, grant writing, fundraising, and financial, project, and strategic planning services for artists and arts organizations throughout the U.S. She understands artists as people who are deeply, profoundly compelled to be creatively engaged. She is the author of Make Your Art No Matter What: Moving Beyond Creative Hurdles, published in 2021, and Your Art Will Save Your Life, published in 2018. She and I discuss working with artists, how life is hard, having an extra soul, returning to yourself, death, God wrestling, spiritual practice, soul traits: patience, silence and responsibility, awesome fear, durations projects, zero room for regret, and a guide for living! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

64. Beth Pickens

Nicole Perlroth covers cybersecurity and digital espionage for The New York Times. She has covered Russian hacks of nuclear plants, airports, and elections, North Korea's cyberattacks against movie studios, banks and hospitals, Iranian attacks on oil companies, banks and the Trump campaign and hundreds of Chinese cyberattacks, including a months-long  hack of The Times. Her first book, “This Is How They Tell Me The World Ends,” about the global cyber arms race, was published in February 2021. The book, and several of her Times articles, have been optioned for television. A Bay Area native, Ms. Perlroth is a guest lecturer at the Stanford Graduate School of Business and a graduate of Princeton University and Stanford University. She and Zuckerman discuss moving to California, choosing to leave an enviable position, naming and shaming, Chinese and Russian hackers and hackers for hire, vulnerabilities, being a story teller, zero days, spy agencies, being a target, managing paranoia, election threats, being a mom and a female journalist, acting on what you most care about, the humans that are involved, and what “they” tell us! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

63. Nicole Perlroth

Allison M. Glenn is a curator and writer deeply invested in working closely with artists to develop ideas, artworks, and exhibitions that respond to and transform our understanding of the world. She is an Associate Curator, Contemporary Art at Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art, and she curates exhibitions across the contemporary program at Crystal Bridges and the Momentary, a new contemporary art space and satellite of Crystal Bridges. Prior to working at Crystal Bridges, she was the Manager of Publications and Curatorial Associate for Prospect New Orleans’ international art triennial Prospect.4. She and Zuckerman discussed regionalism, the center becoming the periphery, cultural exchange, being stewards of the institutions we work for, ambitious projects, identifying key stakeholders first, Amy Sherald’s portrait of Breonna Taylor, the limits to what exhibitions can do, not yet having actually seen things we think we have, not knowing what we think we know, roles and responsibilities, and her curation of Promise Witness Remembrance at the Speed Museum, permission, accessible freedoms, and how people can act in museums! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/ 

62. Allison M. Glenn

Glenn Kaino is an American conceptual artist based in Los Angeles. By integrating innovative methodologies with established art historical traditions, Kaino orchestrates spectacular aesthetic phenomena that engage with, and offer critical commentary on the collective contemporary consciousness. His oeuvre is omnidisciplinary. It predominantly includes sculpture, painting, filmmaking, performance, installation, and large scale public work. His practice is fundamentally idea based. As an art student in the 1990s at UC Irvine and UC San Diego, Kaino adopted a layered, philosophical approach to art making. Simultaneously, he also immersed him self in the study of computers and digital technology. His practice includes mesmerizing and substantial creations and collaborations within the internet, entertainment and communications industries. He and Zuckerman discuss putting together things that would otherwise be irreconcilable, Jerry Adams and the spirit of the resistance, John Lewis and bloody Sundays, civil rights movements, constellation of intentions and concerns, the membrane between knowing and not knowing, that no one will believe more than you, fish tanks and post colonial politics, progressive hobbyists, where humanity lies, the natural state of war, being an art maker, creating a space for things to be considered, magic, and doing impossible things! *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

61. Glenn Kaino

Conversations about Art follows threads such as: Art and Uncertainty, Art and Happiness, and Art and Spirituality, in conversations between Heidi Zuckerman, a globally recognized contemporary art museum director, author, and speaker, and artists, curators, collectors, athletes, actors, musicians, politicians and CEOs. An inspiring storyteller and trusted conversation partner, Zuckerman connects people to art, artists, and ideas to make their lives better!

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