In this episode Muslim intellectual Dr. Javad Hashmi refutes pro-choice arguments made by famous Islamic scholars. Javad reacts to multiple videos in this episode, so to watch this episode on YouTube, click here: https://youtu.be/4DKXWOKhjeE Otherwise, there are links to everything he references in the description below. Javad T. Hashmi is a board-certified emergency physician, former Fellow of Medical Ethics at Harvard Medical School, and a PhD candidate in the Study of Religion (Islamic Studies) at Harvard University. In addition to his medical training, Dr. Hashmi holds a bachelor’s and master’s degree in Arabic & Islamic Studies from U.C. Berkeley and Harvard respectively. Related Links: Watch or listen to the first episode with Javad: https://bit.ly/3AWjGv3 AltMuslimah: "I am a Muslim Woman and I chose to Have an Abortion" https://bit.ly/2X39thw Dr. Irving in International Journal of Scoiology and Social Policy: "When do Human Beings Begin? 'Scientific' Myths and Scientific Facts" https://bit.ly/3DyQR8H The statistics on why women have abortions was quoted from Abort73.com/s U.S. Abortion Statistics page, which is quoting the Guttmacher Institute's 2004 survey of 1,209 post-abortive women https://bit.ly/3v7qbJ7 (Abort73) https://bit.ly/3DxJput (Guttmacher Survey Table - PDF) Hamza Yusuf: "When Does a Human Fetus Become Human?" https://bit.ly/3BAPWnV YouTube clip #1: Abortion in Islam | Animation https://youtu.be/B6iUY1kks-s Dr. Omar Suleiman: Islam and the Abortion Debate: https://bit.ly/3lEPtvq YouTube clip #2: Islamic Ruling On Abortion due to Medical Reasons https://youtu.be/yY6n7glG6Y0 YouTube clip #3: Is Abortion permissible in Islam or not? - Sheikh Assimalhakeem https://youtu.be/-Z6DygN6IJI BeautifulIslam.net (South Asia article): Abortion and Doctor's Situation https://bit.ly/2YIAE1G Islam Question & Answer: Ruling on aborting a pregnancy in the early stages https://bit.ly/2YSpLuv YouTube clip #4: The Ruling on Abortion | Mufti Abu Layth https://youtu.be/SU9McOtBDT8 Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice: Islam and Reproductive Choice https://bit.ly/3FUhJSO ERI Bodily Rights landing page: https://EqualRightsInstitute.com/BodilyRights/ Follow Javad at https://twitter.com/DrJavadTHashmi 00:00 Introducing Javad 02:13 Muslim opinion polls on abortion 03:34 Javad's view vs. how Muslims typically think about abortion 06:35 Josh clarifies Javad's view 10:06 How science intersects with the abortion debate 10:45 Why women have abortions 13:09 Javad's more liberal views on women's rights within Islam 16:00 Wrapping up on statistics 17:02 Another pro-life Muslim scholar 18:22 Introducing YouTube clip #1 19:50 On Muslims believing the soul is breathed into the fetus at 120 days after conception 22:01 Next clip 22:09 On Muslim clerics not permitting abortion for financial reasons 25:04 Next clip 25:21 Muslim leaders sometimes say they are more pro-life than they actually are 26:23 Next clip 26:33 Responding to rape and fetal deformity exceptions 30:47 Next clip 31:13 More essentially pro-choice policies of Muslim clerics 31:52 Different Muslim views of ensoulment 36:59 Dr. Suleiman calls his position "neutral", but is it really? 39:12 Next clip (including setup) 40:59 On Muslim cleric's misrepresentation of Catholics on life of the mother exceptions 43:43 On common inconsistencies in Muslim's views on abortion 45:29 Responding to the viability argument 47:15 Javad on pointing Muslims toward Christian philosophy 47:49 Next clip 48:15 More inconsistency 48:30 Next clip 51:53 This Muslim cleric says that 80 days after conception matters! 54:26 Pro-choice issues from even conservative, traditionalist Muslims in South Asia 55:37 More pro-choice positions from a conservative Muslim website 56:58 Setting up clip from a "bad boy" liberal Muslim making weak pro-choice arguments 58:15 Next clip 1:00:36 Responding to "I'm not going to force my views on others" argument 1:02:27 Responding to "nobody chooses abortion lightly" 1:05:07 Next clip 1:08:04 Responding to the "gradations of life" idea 1:13:09 Quick reviews of other Muslim videos and articles 1:18:34 Bodily autonomy arguments 1:27:55 What caused Javad to begin reconsidering his views on abortion? Host: Josh Brahm Guest: Dr. Javad T. Hashmi Audio/Video Editor: Chapter One Films & Josh Brahm Publisher: Jen Westmoreland

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#72: Muslim Intellectual Debunks Pro-Choice Islamic Scholars (with Dr. Javad Hashmi)

This is the first of a two-part series with Muslim intellectual Dr. Javad Hashmi. In this episode Josh interviews him about his journey from pro-choice to pro-life and how Muslims think about moral culpability and human value. They spend the rest of the episode having an impromptu nerdy philosophy debate about personhood. Javad T. Hashmi is a board-certified emergency physician, former Fellow of Medical Ethics at Harvard Medical School, and a PhD candidate in the Study of Religion (Islamic Studies) at Harvard University. In addition to his medical training, Dr. Hashmi holds a bachelor’s and master’s degree in Arabic & Islamic Studies from U.C. Berkeley and Harvard respectively. Chapters: 00:00 Introducing Javad 01:30 Javad's story from pro-choice to pro-life 04:35 A primer on American Muslim politics 09:46 Javad's story continued 14:06 On compassion for post-abortive women 16:12 Thinking through the complexities of moral culpability and abortion 19:40 The role (or lack thereof) of religion in the abortion debate 26:44: What Muslims think about "first breath" and human value? 33:43 More on the Muslim view of human value 45:51 Javad interacts with how ERI staff think about personhood Related links: Pro-Life Apologetics: The Equal Rights Argument: https://youtu.be/louYc-9cvE0 Equal Rights Institute Website: https://EqualRightsInstitute.com Equal Rights Institute Blog: https://Blog.EqualRightsInstitute.com Equipped for Life Course: https://EquippedCourse.com Sidewalk Counseling Masterclass: http://SidewalkCounselingMasterclass.com Host: Josh Brahm Guest: Dr. Javad T. Hashmi Audio/Video Editor: Chapter One Films & Josh Brahm Publisher: Jen Westmoreland

#71: A Muslim Intellectual's Journey from Pro-Choice to Pro-Life (with Dr. Javad Hashmi)

Robin Atkins is back to discuss mental health, informed consent, abortion risks, the level of counseling in abortion facilities, and more. Robin is a licensed mental health counselor, specializing in reproductive issues. She also has a philosophy degree. She spent four years doing home-based therapy with the Department of Children's Services. She's a pro-life advocate with an atypical perspective on some of the issues surrounding abortion. Related Links: Refuting “Abortion as Self-Defense” (video): https://youtu.be/B2TakKSUawA Refuting “Abortion as Self-Defense” (article): https://bit.ly/32fHZWi Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present: https://amzn.to/3e8Mjvw American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists or AAPLOG (for abortion risks): https://aaplog.org/ You can learn more about the Turnaway Study here: https://turnawaystudy.com Listen to our first episode with Robin Atkins to hear her thoughts on the Turnaway Study: https://bit.ly/3uUUelI Watch Josh Brahm's faulty pro-life arguments speech: https://bit.ly/2VrhYSm Contact Robin @TruthAgape on Twitter: https://twitter.com/truthagape Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:34 Why tokophobia cases are increasing 4:13 How can people learn to advocate for themselves better with their doctors? 5:34 How informed consent relates to the abortion debate 9:38 Is it wrong for pro-life ultrasound laws to require internal ultrasound procedures? 12:04 Is it anti-free-speech to require doctors to say things required by a pro-life informed consent law? 16:40 How satisfied are you with the informed consent bills that pro-lifers pass? 19:04 How would you respond to the clinic worker who says they're just there to provide the service their client wants? 22:39 Should there be screenings before an abortion? 24:10 Assessing the level of counseling and/or care given to women in abortion facilities 28:16 Where should people go for the most accurate explanation of abortion risks? 29:42 What would it take for a clinic worker to become qualified to give anything called "counseling" to the client? 31:26 What are the accurate risk factors for abortion? 38:04 Is the abortion causing these symptoms or are women who were already more likely to experience these post-abortion symptoms having abortions? 41:38 On minors having abortions 47:25 On pro-choice women using women who are suffering as a shield, and how pro-lifers should respond to her 50:39 On abortion in the case of rape Disclosure: The book above is an Amazon affiliate link. This means that, at zero cost to you, ERI will earn an affiliate commission if you click through the link and finalize a purchase.

#70: Mental Health and Informed Consent in Abortion (with Robin Atkins)

Robin Atkins is back to discuss psychology in debate. Robin is a licensed mental health counselor, specializing in reproductive issues. She also has a philosophy degree. She spent four years doing home-based therapy with the Department of Children's Services. She's a pro-life advocate with an atypical perspective on some of the issues surrounding abortion. Related Links: Listen to our first episode with Robin, on adoption vs. foster care vs. abortion Dialogue Tip: Tell Them That They Can’t Offend You We referenced our mutual friend Petra Wallenmeyer who is now a writing intern at ERI, as well as the Content Director for the Human Defense Initiative. Read her articles here. Our first Humor in Dialogue podcast A Comedian Shares Tips for Using Humor in Dialogue Should Pro-Lifers be Snarky? (with Dank Pro-Life Memes) Charisma on Command YouTube channel Brant Hanson's book, "Unoffendable: How Just One Change Can Make All of Life Better" Disclosure: The book above is an Amazon affiliate link. This means that, at zero cost to you, ERI will earn an affiliate commission if you click through the link and finalize a purchase. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 02:00 Defining communication 03:44 Navigating debates, in-person and online 05:53 Clarifying the labels "speaker" vs "listener" 08:25 How do you help someone who is constantly offended by the other side? 13:36 Ideology-driven vs. topic-driven debate 17:31 How do you get past people's defenses? 20:03 Should our primary goal be to change minds? 24:49 Timing and empathy matters 26:27 On anecdotal evidence and miscarriage 31:54 On benevolent trolling and the use of snark 43:31 When is it time to end an unproductive conversation? 47:25 If self-awareness is important, how can people who aren't self-aware discover and work on that? 49:11 Why is civil discourse so low right now, and what can do we about that? 59:27 What is it you'd like people to take from the "Unoffendable" book?

#69: A Mental Health Counselor on Psychology in Debate (with Robin Atkins)

This is a companion discussion to our first episode with Robin Atkins, "A Different Perspective: Adoption vs. Foster Care vs. Abortion", which you can watch here: https://youtu.be/yChl-sReTP0 The primary question being discussed is whether sidewalk counselors should NEVER bring up adoption, or whether they should RARELY bring up adoption. Both Jacob and Robin would change each other's minds in small ways during this discussion!

#68 Bonus Discussion: Should Sidewalk Counselors Should EVER Bring Up Adoption?

Robin Atkins is a licensed mental health counselor, specializing in reproductive issues. She also has a philosophy degree. She spent four years doing home-based therapy with the Department of Children's Services. She's a pro-life advocate and has very interesting thoughts on the topic of abortion. This is the first of three episodes with Robin. In this episode, Robin discusses the differences between newborn adoption, foster care, and abortion. Related Links: Listen to the bonus discussion Jacob Nels had with Robin Atkins about whether sidewalk counselors should EVER bring up adoption: https://youtu.be/HaUJMcEgpcQ Previous ERI Podcast with Jacob Nels - "Why Sidewalk Counselors Should Not Recommend Adoption" You can learn more about the Turnaway Study here: https://turnawaystudy.com VIDEO: Pastors, You Can Reduce Abortions in Your Church | Pro-Life Theology in Practice ARTICLE: One Thing Every Pastor Can Do to Prevent Abortions in Their Congregation Purchase "Alarmist Gatekeeping" by Dr. Deborah Garratt Contact Robin @TruthAgape on Twitter Chapters: 00:00 Announcement about bonus discussion 02:20 Introducing Robin 04:54 The ERI podcast episode Robin disagreed with 07:05 Common ground about adoption 09:45 The purpose of foster care 10:16 Problems and potential solutions 16:34 Should all foster kids be reunited with their bio parents? 18:27 Foster care issues continued 19:03 Safe haven babies 24:16 The damage done to the foster community from pro-choice people 25:25 The Turnaway Study 30:11 Do all women instantly regret their abortion? 33:51 Clarifying how foster care works 38:56 Eugenics and adoption 42:26 Children's rights and consent 50:07 Does abuse happen in foster care as often as people think? 54:34 Reforms that would improve the newborn adoption system 59:55 Why sidewalk counselors shouldn't bring up adoption (at least most of the time) 1:02:59 How churches could respond to unwed pregnancy better 1:11:17 Contrasting adoption and foster care with abortion Disclosure: The book above is an Amazon affiliate link. This means that, at zero cost to you, ERI will earn an affiliate commission if you click through the link and finalize a purchase.

#68: A Different Perspective: Adoption vs. Foster Care vs. Abortion (with Robin Atkins)

Jonathon Van Maren joins the podcast for the second part of a discussion on what is going on with a hostile anti-abortion group called Abolish Human Abortion (AHA). In this episode, Jonathon discusses the history of the pro-life movement and why it needs to be understood, AHA's "Free the States" strategy, and what pro-life organizations and sidewalk counselors should do about them. Related Links: Jonathon Van Maren: How “Abolish Human Abortion” Gets History Wrong - Part 1 Jonathon Van Maren: How “Abolish Human Abortion” Gets History Wrong Again - Part 2 ERI Podcast: "Should Women be Prosecuted if Abortion Becomes Illegal?" "Defenders of the Unborn" by Dr. Daniel K. Williams "Abortion Rites" by Marvin Olasky "Operation Rescue" by Randall Terry "Wrath of Angels: The American Abortion War" by Jim Risen & Judy Thomas Debate: Pro-Life Incrementalism vs Abolitionist Immediatism (Gregg Cunningham vs. T. Russell Hunter) If you want to see Abolish Human Abolition's account of who they are to assess it on its own terms, read "The Five Tenets of Abolitionism" on the AHA webpage Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 04:12 Understanding the history of the pro-life movement 12:50 Why didn't the rescue movement succeed? 19:30 Will simply calling abortion "murder" end it? 20:17 Why the pro-life movement needs to understand it's own history 21:37 Is Jonathon doing the same thing as AHA does by critiquing them? 24:25 Would their "Free the States" strategy work? 28:48 Does AHA support throwing aborting women in jail? 36:28 How AHA's strategy seems defined by being simplistic 41:26 Reacting to Hunter exclaiming how sick he is of abortion 43:02 What should sidewalk counselors do when "abolitionists" are preventing them from saving babies? 54:03 Should pro-life organizations distance themselves from AHA? Jonathon Van Maren is the Communications Director for the Canadian Centre for Bio-Ethical Reform. His writings have been translated into more than six languages, and published in the National Post, National Review, First Things, The European Conservative, The Federalist, The American Conservative, The Stream, the Jewish Independent, the Hamilton Spectator, Reformed Perspective Magazine, among others. His insights have been featured on CTV, Global News, and the CBC, as well as over twenty radio stations. He regularly speaks on a variety of social issues at universities, high schools, churches, and other functions in Canada, the United States, and Europe. Equal Rights Institute Website: https://EqualRightsInstitute.com Equal Rights Institute Blog: https://Blog.EqualRightsInstitute.com Equipped for Life Course: https://EquippedCourse.com Sidewalk Counseling Masterclass: http://SidewalkCounselingMasterclass.com Host: Josh Brahm Guest: Jonathon Van Maren Audio/Video Editor: Chapter One Films & Josh Brahm Publisher: Jen Westmoreland Disclosure: The books above are Amazon affiliate links. This means that, at zero cost to you, ERI will earn an affiliate commission if you click through the links and finalize a purchase.

#67: AHA Fails to Understand Pro-Life History (with Jonathon Van Maren - Part 2)

Jonathon Van Maren joins the podcast to discuss what is going on with a hostile anti-abortion group called Abolish Human Abortion (AHA). This is the first of a two-part series. In this episode, Jonathon discusses AHA's origin, their slander of the pro-life movement, how they are not Wilberforce-style abolitionists, and how they're attempting to rewrite their history now. Related Links: Josh Brahm: AHA Attacks Justice For All for “Not Treating Abortion Like Sin” Jonathon Van Maren: How “Abolish Human Abortion” Gets History Wrong - Part 1 Jonathon Van Maren: How “Abolish Human Abortion” Gets History Wrong Again - Part 2 YouTube: Debate: Pro-Life Incrementalism vs Abolitionist Immediatism (Gregg Cunningham vs. T. Russell Hunter) We referenced Dr. Michael New's research on the effects of pro-life legislation. While much of his work is behind various paywalls, he helpfully sent a link to a 2018 policy analysis he wrote for the Charlotte Lozier Institute, where he summarized the academic research on the impact of pro-life laws: https://bit.ly/3o4Ek6m Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 01:01 Josh on the pro-life unity happening in this episode 02:43 Why we're talking about AHA 08:37 AHA's origin 27:21 The difference between critiquing in good faith and bad faith 31:42 Problems with AHA-supported legislation 33:10 Pro-life victories and AHA's slander 38:09 Why are abortion rates down? 39:44 Straw-manning or unintelligent? 40:59 "And then what?" 42:29 They're not Wilberforce-style abolitionists Jonathon Van Maren is the Communications Director for the Canadian Centre for Bio-Ethical Reform. His writings have been translated into more than six languages, and published in the National Post, National Review, First Things, The European Conservative, The Federalist, The American Conservative, The Stream, the Jewish Independent, the Hamilton Spectator, Reformed Perspective Magazine, among others. His insights have been featured on CTV, Global News, and the CBC, as well as over twenty radio stations. He regularly speaks on a variety of social issues at universities, high schools, churches, and other functions in Canada, the United States, and Europe.

#66: AHA: The Anti-Abortionists Who Fight Other Pro-Lifers (with Jonathon Van Maren - Part 1)

Emily pulls back the curtain to explain the ways that her club leaders established a good working relationship with their administration, dealt with vandalism, connected with the pro-choice club, and more! 00:00 Introduction 02:11 Coaching other clubs 04:26 Managing a club's image 07:24 Dealing with vandalism 29:36 The importance of outreach 31:03 Campus rules for outreach 46:34 Explaining why you do outreach 47:48 Be transparent 54:55 The pro-choice club on campus 1:13:22 When in doubt... 1:18:38 If a club wants advice... Related Links: Email Emily at: Emily@EqualRightsInstitute.com How One Club Changed Their Campus (Extended Interview with Emily Albrecht) Emily’s First Outreach Mistakes Emily’s First Dialogue Mistakes Here's the meme Josh referenced toward the end: Trying Kombucha for the First Time

#65: Dealing with a Hostile Campus as a Pro-Life Club

Now that she has talked about the initial outreach mistakes the Oles for Life club at St. Olaf made, Emily discusses their initial dialogue mistakes. Toward the beginning, she blows Josh's mind by explaining how many of their member's musical backgrounds made it easier for them to critique each other without anyone's feelings getting hurt. (We bet this same thing applies to lots of artists and others too.) Chapters: 00:00 Introducing the topic; 01:39 Mistake #1: Not knowing your strengths and weaknesses; 14:36 Mistake #2: Making dialogues formulaic; 20:39 Mistake #3: Not being willing to stand on the facts; 24:35 On handing people better pro-choice arguments; 30:05 Mistake #4: Forgetting that 'clarity is our friend'; 33:20 Why pro-choice people can misunderstand the 'trot out a toddler' technique; 38:00 Bearing as much burden of proof as possible; 40:08 Mistake #5: Struggling to end the conversation. Refuting “Abortion as Self-Defense”: https://bit.ly/32fHZWi When They Bite the Bullet: http://bit.ly/34Z9Rw2

#64: Emily's First Dialogue Mistakes

Our regular listeners have heard by now about the great successes of Oles for Life, the pro-life student club at St. Olaf College. In this episode, Emily Albrecht pulls the curtain back to share five mistakes their club made when they began doing outreach. This episode will be followed by one on specific dialogue mistakes they made during their outreaches. Chapters: 00:00 - Introducing the topic; 03:11 - Outreach at St. Olaf; 04:39 - Mistake #1: Fear of starting to do outreach; 15:11 - Mistake #2: Poorly designed outreach table; 28:53 - Mistake #3: Struggling to start conversations; 34:33 - Mistake #4: Not being ready to explain their purpose; 40:45 - Mistake #5: Not being intentional about who is at the table. Related Links: How One Club Changed Their Campus (Extended Interview with Emily Albrecht): https://bit.ly/30JAfdd or https://youtu.be/HoSwkt1wFdY Abortion Images: A Case for Disagreement without Division: http://bit.ly/2vli3Ja Here are links to some example dialogues we've recorded: Josh Brahm and Rebecca Haschke at Students for Life Conference: https://youtu.be/tSKfxYHSarU?t=1690 Example Dialogues: Pro-Life Tim and Pro-Choice Rachel: http://bit.ly/2O8eFIH Example Dialogues: Pro-Life Josh and Pro-Choice Tim: http://bit.ly/354n72x Example Dialogues: Pro-Life Rachel and Pro-Choice Tim: http://bit.ly/2KjM7uz Responding to the Astute Observation That I Am a Man: http://bit.ly/2vV31tA

#63: Emily's First Outreach Mistakes

Josh Brahm interviews comedian Josh Harris about how he got into sidewalk counseling, how he uses humor on the sidewalk, and some practical tips for you to use to add more humor and friendliness to your conversations about abortion! Chapters: 0:00 Introducing Josh Harris; 03:23 How a Comedian Began Sidewalk Counseling; 08:45 Humor in pro-life dialogues; 13:00 Combining humor with compliments; 31:36 Practical tips for becoming funnier; 40:33 Clean comedians to check out for inspiration; 42:41 More practical tips; 47:53 Friendliness in dialogue; 49:47 Links and a final tip; 55:31 What does it take to master apologetics? Our previous episode on humor in dialogue: http://bit.ly/34Zregc You can find Josh Harris' comedy at: https://FunnyJosh.com Josh Harris' online comedy classes: http://OnlineComedyClasses.com Learn more about Josh Brahm's stories of relational apologetics by watching this talk he gave at a church: https://youtu.be/ndO3nByqVrM ERI's core values: https://bit.ly/3tN8Ggc Here's how we describe humor in that list: "We believe laughter is a gift that enriches the human experience and helps to create an instant connection between people of different walks of life, which is why we have chosen to incorporate it into our content and work environment. While we take our work very seriously, we try to not take ourselves too seriously." Host: Josh Brahm Guest: Josh Harris Audio/Video Editor: Shawn Shroyer & Josh Brahm Publisher: Jen Westmoreland

#62: A Comedian Shares Tips for Using Humor in Dialogue

Josh Brahm and Jacob Nels, ERI's Sidewalk Counseling Trainer, finish reacting to videos sent in by Rebekah Dyer while sidewalk counseling. If you haven't seen part one yet, please watch that first for more context: https://youtu.be/rqdQO_nFsGg PARENTAL ADVISORY NOTE: Unlike the previous episode, the videos we review in this episode include very strong language. We chose not to censor it. If you listen to our podcast around your kids, this is probably one to use headphones on. As he did before, Jacob reviews the videos Rebekah sent in with Josh, talking about what Rebekah did well, anything else he would have done, as well as commenting on the behavior of the private security officer. Because the videos were filmed outside on the street, it's kind of hard to understand what everyone is saying. This might be a better podcast to watch, because we made captions for the videos there: https://youtu.be/9JCKTN3DI0o Timecodes: 0:00 Introduction; 02:49 Clip 1; 3:26 Clip 1 commentary; 8:04 Clip 2; 10:04 commentary; 11:53 Clip 3; 12:21 commentary; 12:34 Clip 4; 13:14 commentary; 14:15 Clip 5; 15:22 commentary; 21:09 Clip 6; 21:22 commentary; 22:28 Clip 7; 22:49 commentary; 23:23 Clip 7; 23:34 commentary; 24:29 Clip 8; 24:52 commentary; 25:22 Clip 9; 26:07 commentary; 28:04 Clip 10; 28:45 commentary; 29:20 Clip 11; 29:45 commentary; 31:52 Clip 12; 31:59 commentary; 32:44 Clip 13; 33:13 commentary; 35:02 Final thoughts. ERI Blog: "Don’t Be Too Nice" http://bit.ly/2vPMDX4 If you're a sidewalk counselor in need of legal advice, we strongly recommend Alliance Defending Freedom: https://www.adflegal.org/contact-us Sidewalk Counseling Masterclass: http://SidewalkCounselingMasterclass.com ERI Website: https://EqualRightsInstitute.com ERI Blog: https://Blog.EqualRightsInstitute.com Equipped for Life Course: https://EquippedCourse.com

#61: A Sidewalk Counselor's Run-Ins with Police and an Overzealous Security Guard - Part 2

Josh Brahm brings Jacob Nels, ERI's Sidewalk Counseling Trainer, to react to videos sent in by Rebekah Dyer while sidewalk counseling. Rebekah works with Justice For All, but separate from that does sidewalk counseling and has benefitted from our Sidewalk Counseling Masterclass. Rebekah has had multiple run-ins with police and private security officers while counseling near an abortion facility in California that is part of a strip mall. Jacob reviews the videos she sent in with Josh, talking about what Rebekah did well, anything else he would have done, as well as commenting on the officer's behavior. We split this into two episodes because of the length. NOTE: Because the videos were filmed outside on the street, it's kind of hard to understand what everyone is saying. This might be a better podcast to watch, because we made captions for the videos there: https://youtu.be/rqdQO_nFsGg Timecodes: 0:00 Introduction of Jacob and Rebekah Dyer's situation; 13:28 Clip 1; 13:45 Clip 1 commentary; 18:37 Clip 2; 18:45 commentary; 19:23 Clip 3; 19:54 commentary; 20:13 Clip 4; 20:30 commentary; 20:46 Clip 5; 21:34 commentary; 23:36 Clip 6; 24:11 commentary; 25:00 Clip 7; 25:45 commentary; 27:56 Clip 7; 32:09 commentary; 35:20 Clip 8; 37:44 commentary; 38:08 Clip 9; 38:26 commentary; 41:29 Clip 10; 42:45 commentary; 43:06 Clip 11; 43:14 commentary; 45:34 Clip 12 (The rest of these were filmed on a different day a few weeks later); 46:35 commentary; 49:59 Clip 13; 50:44 commentary; 51:17 Clip 14; 51:25 commentary; 52:41 Clip 15; 53:27 commentary; 54:54 Clip 16; 55:30 commentary; 55:56 Clip 17; 57:08 commentary.

#60: A Sidewalk Counselor's Run-Ins with Police and an Overzealous Security Guard - Part 1

We bring you the extended interview of Emily Albrecht (our newest team member!) from the recent ERI Pajama Gala. Emily explains how she got involved in the pro-life movement, and how her campus club used their training from the Equipped for Life Course to transform the culture at St. Olaf, from one where they hated pro-lifers to one where pro-lifers are respected. 0:00: Introduction; 04:34: Interview with Emily. Watch the replay of our Pajama Gala, including the primary lesson of our new Equal Rights Argument module: https://bit.ly/2JUBth3

#59: How One Club Changed Their Campus (Extended Interview with Emily Albrecht)

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