In today's episode of "First Voice Last Word," Sunetra Chaudhary goes beyond the realm of politics as she is joined by Fali Nariman, a senior jurist, for a discussion around his latest book release, "You Must Know Your Constitution." Nariman sheds light on the contemporary perspective of the Indian constitution. Fali Nariman dissects the constitution comprehensively for the general public, offering insights into why certain aspects are prone to misuse. He addresses and dispels any misconceptions and doubts people may have about the constitution. He draws comparisons between British colonial law and the Indian penal code, while also sharing his perspective on the Sedition Act and its misuses. Furthermore, Nariman explores the recent constitutional experiment in Chile. This episode is a must-listen, as it transcends politics and goes straight into the historical evolution of the Indian democratic system, tracing its roots back to the colonial era. Tune in now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What the constitution says about India & Bharat- with Fali Nariman

Join in for another politcial ride with a brand new installation of "First Voice Last Word", Sunetra Choudhary is joined by Sushmita Dev, Former Member of Rajya Sabha, Tune in for her candid perspectives on the status of women in politics and her firm stance on the reservation bill. Sushmita dev narrowely fills the gap and clears the gap surrounding the reservation bill for women in the parlimanet, she has some interesting insights to the politcis which is being played behind the shadows of the bill, Additionally, you'll get to hear her thoughts on the forthcoming 2024 Lok Sabha elections, where her party, The TMC, plays a pivotal role in the INDIA Alliance. As a seasoned female politician, Sushmita Dev has weathered the highs and lows of the Indian political landscape. Her wisdom and experiences shed light on how various parties have advocated for women's rights and positions, both within their ranks and beyond. This episode is a must-watch for any woman with a keen interest in politics and for those who may underestimate the strength of these remarkable women leading the charge for women in politics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Beyond the Patriarchy: Sushmita Dev on Women in Politics, Reservation Bill, and Dynastic Politics

In this episode of "First Voice Last Word," Sunetra Choudhury is joined by Rajya Sabha MP from Bihar, the RJD newsmaker Manoj Jha. Tune in to this unfiltered conversation on the central government and the corruption that has been permeating modern India. Manoj Jha breaks down topics like, Freedom of press, the watchdogs of democracy, the Indian Constitution, and how it has consistently been sidelined by the ruling BJP government. He shares his perspective on the Bihar caste census and why it has been delayed by the BJP, and many more presenting facts and numbers throughout the conversation. When faced with criticism of dynastic politics, he offers a thought-provoking opinion that can change the way we view nepotism in politics. With the approaching elections, Manoj Jha expresses strong words for the ruling party, highlighting the mistakes they expressed made in the lead-up to those elections. He also provides advice to his fellow India Alliance members, advocating for a strategic approach that can help break the cycle of hate that has been spreading throughout the country. Tune in now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Manoj Jha Unfiltered: Bihar Caste Census, Corruption and India Alliance

With the 2024 Lok Sabha elections on the horizon, Sunetra Chaudhary is joined by Sushil Kumar Modi, a BJP member of the Rajya Sabha from Bihar. Tune in to hear his perspective on various key topics, including the caste census, insights into the first backward class commission, and the Congress party's attempts to consolidate OBC votes, which have seen recent failures. Sushil Modi also addresses the cloud of confusion surrounding the Adani-Modi connection and the image of the Prime Minister being dragged into parliamentary debates, with Rahul Gandhi leading the opposition's constant attacks on the ruling party. Additionally, he discusses the ruling party's reaction to the opposition's coming together under the banner of the INDIA alliance. As the 2024 Lok Sabha elections approach, the question of who will stand against the incumbent Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, remains unanswered, causing uncertainty and intrigue in both the ruling and opposition camps. Tune in now to witness this dance of politics Watch the video episode here: https://youtu.be/vE4LNELy1m4?si=dFHHhS_aDMbhYJYX Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sushil Modi on Caste Census, Adani-Modi Connection, and More!

The murder of a young working woman Ankita Bhandari in the hills of Uttarakhand last month, really shook up the entire country . The story went from local crime news to national headlines when police arrested the son of a ruling party leader. But why is the story threatening to change the political dynamics of the state? And why are the people across the state so angry? First Voice Last Word our weekly podcast on Indian politics. In this episode, Sunetra Choudhury, National Political Editor for Hindustan Times speaks with her colleague Amit Bathla on what happened in the lead up to the killing and what’s happened since. She also speaks to the ADG law and order to find out what evidence they have. But while the news cycle has moved on, the case could have a major political impact. Find out why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ankita Bhandari: Politics of a Murder Case

In this edition of First Voice Last Word, our weekly podcast on Indian politics, HT's National Political Editor Sunetra Choudhury looks at why Prime Minister Narendra Modi has taken up a campaign against dynastic politics. The Prime Minister announced it as part of his speech on Independence day and he seemed to make a connection between corruption and dynastic politics but is that reflective of how things are? We spoke to Congress MP Gaurav Gogoi, who is the quintessential politician from a political family. His father, Tarun Gogoi was a three-time chief minister of Assam and also served as a Congress MLA and MP for several terms. But Gaurav's point and the point that other dynastic politicians make is that, while they get an advantage and recall in the first election, in all other elections, it becomes a level playing field. That's why, even though the constituency has become a family stronghold since 1991, Gaurav getting 55% of the vote share in 2019, gives him legitimacy. ``Being from a political family no doubt helps you in building those relationships, but ultimately people will judge you on the basis of your track record. If in parliament I don’t speak up for my state, if I don’t spend time with my voters, and understand the aspirations of different sections of society, and if I don’t try to resolve their issues, then people will not vote for me. People are not in awe of your political lineage for too long. They will judge you on the basis of the causes that you’re fighting for, on the amount of time you invest in building relationships with them, and they will judge you for your sincerity and integrity,'' he said. Political scientist and fellow at the Centre for Policy Rahul Verma feels that post-2019, BJP is trying to expand itself in states where regional parties are strong. ``The PM’s speech on 15 August 2022-basically called dynasticism as one of the two great evils that this country is facing at the moment. So, if you see that BJP is trying to expand itself in Bengal, and Telangana and in both these states- state-level formations are led by in some ways political families. The party will also try to expand itself in Maharashtra, and in Bihar now after JDU has left and joined hands with the RJD. Going forward, this plank is going to be one of the important platforms on which the BJP is going to build its campaign on. And remember, the plank of dynasticism, is also closely tied with corruption and nepotism and it's also tied to inability to govern and deliver things properly. So BJP is trying to build a very powerful message around dynasticism, corruption, and misgovernance,'' he said. However, what's important to point out is that while the BJP is making dynastic politics a major issue, they do have several leaders from political families- Piyush Goyal, Dharmendra Pradhan, Jayant Sinha, Devendra Fadnavis and so many others. But for some reason, it doesn't stick to them as much as it sticks to other parties like the Congress or the DMK or so many other regional parties. According to data put together by academic Kanchan Chandra in her book democratic dynasties, dynasts are everywhere. For instance, while the Congress had one of the highest numbers of dynasts in the 2014 elections, with more than 47% from some families, the Bhartiya Janata party also had 14% of dynasts, which was a drop from the previous figure of 19%. In fact, Chandra's2016 book says that 22% of the MPs, 33% of India’s current chief ministers, and the leaders of 36% of parties in Parliament have a dynastic background. So how is it that the BJP is able to avoid the dynastic association even tho it has many dynasts in its ranks? For more, listen in to this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Politics: A Family Affair?

This month, a court in Varanasi upheld the maintainability of a case filed by five Hindu women, demanding the right to pray and access to the Gyanvapi mosque. The mosque authorities are challenging the case in Supreme Court because they feel that this please will open a pandora's box and is essentially against the Places of Worship Act of 1991. The fight between Hindu and Muslim parties at Gyanvapi began exactly two years after the Supreme Court allowed the building of the Ram Temple in Ayodhya in 2019. In this week's podcast, we speak to one of the five Hindu petitioners, Manju Vyas about how the case started. Manju says it's when she realized that she could only visit the Shringar Gauri deity inside the mosque once a year. ''We all met while visiting the Shringar Gauri temple. It used to open up once every year. I was not sure about the exact place where I could get a ‘darshan’. I saw others praying at the outer premises. I was confused and started gathering information. I discussed this issue with other women. All temples in the nation are opened yearlong and deities are offered ‘bhog’ but people could only pray here from outside," she told HT The Places of Worship Act passed during Narasimha Rao's tenure in 1991 had made it very clear that Ayodhya was an exception and all other religious sites would stick to the same position they had at the time of independence. As the 2019 Ayodhya judgement said, "History and its wrongs shall not be used as instruments to oppress the present and the future,” Lawyers like Shadaan Farasat, who have tracked the case closely, believe that the Gyanvapi case may encourage other groups to challenge the status quo-"I do feel that the Ayodhya judgment has given a lot of energy and force to entities and groups who wanted to pursue such actions. Although the Ayodhya judgment and the Babri judgment itself recognise that this is clearly a one-off and for other matters, the Places of Worship Act protects and prevents such actions, but clearly that seems to have not happened. When the matter itself went to the Supreme Court, at that stage it was not fully stopped by the Supreme Court itself in the Gyanvapi case, lying on its own judgment. I think given all of that, the parties definitely feel that there are opportunities to initiate these kinds of disputes and pursue them." So what does the ongoing litigation mean for each of the parties and for us? Join Sunetra Choudhury as she explores this with all the stakeholders. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gyanvapi and the fight for Places of Worship

On the 7th of September, the Congress party started one of their most ambitious campaigns till date. Led by their former chief and MP Rahul Gandhi, the party launched its mega plan to have workers walk from Kanyakumari, the southernmost tip of the country to Srinagar in the North, covering 3500 km in 12 states over 150 days. The message was simple- to expose the BJP government's divisive policy with the countering slogan of - Bharat Jodo or Uniting India. Till now they're only in the second state, but already it's generating a lot of attention- from whether their accommodations and clothes are modest enough to the people that are meeting them along the way. The key question to consider is-will it hurt the Modi government at all? The idea of padyatra as a form of political express really started with Mahatma Gandhi in 1930. Bapu launched the Dandi March as part of his larger civil disobedience movement against the British. As our history books have taught us, Gandhi asked why the British had banned Indians from locally producing salt, forcing them instead to buy the imported variety that was heavily taxed and expensive. It was an issue that was festering for years, and when Gandhi decided to walk from his Sabarmati Ashram in Ahmedabad to the coast in Dandi to make the salt, it set the ball rolling on a greater movement against the British. Political researcher and columnist Asim Ali joined Sunetra to explain how the crowds that the Mahatma drew with his walk and mingling with masses, inspired all the other padyatras that followed. He also explained some of the intrinsic factors that the Dandi March had which contributed to its success. ``Gandhi showed that for this sort of political mobilisation to succeed - message and medium need to be in sync. You need two things-one, you need a big message and two, you need a reason as to why you’re choosing this medium as opposed to others,'' said Ali. The next big padyatra was the one by Janata Party leader Chandrashekhar in 1983 to campaign against the Indira Gandhi government. He too started from Kanyakumari but he took a much longer route, covering more than 4000 kilometres, gathering crowds along the way. The impact wasn't very obvious because other factors like Indira Gandhi's assassination soon overtook events, but it's still remembered as the last, most ambitious on-foot campaign, and even Prime Minister Modi paid tributes to his efforts recently. The efforts of BJP veteran LK Advani are very strongly embedded in our memory but the key question is what is the end gain out of such large-scale efforts. ``The yatra that Advani Ji undertook and the huge response it received from people, it should have opened the eyes of Congres and others that this is an issue that is at the very heart of Hindu aspirations,'' said his former aide and activist Sudheendra Kulkarni. Listen to First Voice, Last Word to understand how the Bharat Jodo measures up to these earlier efforts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

DANDI to RAM RATH to BHARAT JODO: What padyatras achieve?

On Thursday, Prime Minister Narendra Modi inaugurated the new Central Vista, the area in the Capital which marks the power centre with Rashtrapati Bhawan on one end and India Gate at the other, and all important government offices in the vicinity. The inauguration last week also heralds the end of another landmark- the 100-year-old Parliament building. In this episode of First Voice, Last Word, Sunetra Choudhury tells you all you need to know about this change. For instance, did you know that it was this circular Parliament building which also used to be the location of the Supreme Court of India? PRS legislative's Chakshu Roy tells us that the two institutions shared the same space till Supreme Court got its own building a few kilometres away. In fact, even the UPSC's predecessor, the federal service commission was also in the same building. Parliament sessions would be held here in winter, while in the summer, everyone would work from Shimla. However, as this colonial summer getaway didn't work post-independence, the building needed constant updates- from air conditioning, to phone lines to finally, the internet age. Till finally, the current government decided that it was time to move to a brand new building. This move has left all the MPs feeling very nostalgic. We speak to BJP's Prakash Javdekar, NCP's Supriya Sule and Congress' Kamal Nath. ``This round-shaped Parliament has a peculiar architecture and we enjoyed a lot. I used to take walk whenever I get time. The total round shape is 650 steps and that used to give us, 2 rounds make 1 km. That’s how we used to take 4,5,6 rounds whenever time permits. I found this habit with Ghulam Nabi Azad. He also used to take rounds and we used to chat,'' said Javdekar. ``I can’t explain it in words but, you know, you are so proud of hearing the national anthem if we hear it or sing it. Especially, when you hear it in Parliament, I don’t know happens, but it’s something very very special. I think, it emotionally just brings up all the moments one has read about, seen in visuals. Tallest leaders from all party sides, all ideologies have taken this vibrant democracy of 75 years that we are celebrating. I think, it all starts from there, the real story starts from that building. It’s a beautiful building because it’s even an architectural marvel,'' said NCP's Supriya Sule, who followed father's footsteps into Parliament. One of the longest serving MPs, Kamal Nath said, ``We need modernity but do we need a new building? You could build another annexe. I remember the annexe was built. When I joined Parliament there was no annexe then there was a new annexe. Because you don't play around with history.'' Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The making of a new Parliament

2022 marks the 30th anniversary of the moment that the Indian Army started inducting women in branches other than the medical corps. This historic moment in 1992 was just the beginning of the journey that women would chart in the armed forces, with a slow progression to the present time where women are also allowed as personnel below officer rank (PBOR). It's been an epic journey, especially for the 615 women who fought for the permanent commission because the Ministry of Defence only allowed women to work for Short Service Commissions (SSC) which was initially just five years of service and then was gradually increased to 14 years of service. From 2003 to 2020, these pioneer women fought a long, lonely battle for equality, to get the same pay, same perks as their male peers. Even after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced it as a policy division in 2018, that women would be given permanent commission, it was still blocked in other ways in courts. In this week's episode, Sunetra Choudhury tells the story of the fight that went from Delhi High Court to Supreme Court. She also speaks to four women officers to tell their journey as SSC officers and what they feel about women getting equal rights and studying in the National Defence Academy for the first time. The podcast features : Greeshma Mannari, joined Indian Army under SSC in 2000 and served in the Western Sector Lt. Commander Seema Verma, joined Navy in 1993 and left in 2006 ahead of her 14 year tenure Sq Leader Sumedha Chopra who joined the Air Force in 2009 and completed her tenure of 14 years service Sq Leader Varlin Panwar who served for 10 years as fighter controller in the Indian Air Force Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

An officer and a lady: 30 year fight for equality in the Armed Forces

The Congress is confronting its most serious crisis in its electoral history since 1951. Since the 2019 debacle in the Lok Sabha elections, the second in a row, it has not won a majority in a single state assembly election on its own. From 400 plus MPs in Lok Sabha in 1984, the current number of parliamentarians including the Rajya Sabha ones, is just 84 out of a total of 793. Never before in the history of the party, have, they had this low of fewer than 100 seats in both Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha. In all the states across India, Congress has 695 MLAs while the BJP which has almost double that with 1383 MLAs. It's not surprising since they didn't win even one of the 5 states that saw elections recently — Uttar Pradesh (UP), Uttarakhand, Goa, Punjab and Manipur What's exacerbating the problem is the constant exit of high-profile leaders, the most recent is Ghulam Nabi Azad but there has been a flood- Jyotiraditya Scindia, RPN Singh, Sushmita Dev, Sunil Jakhar are just some of the leaders who have left for either the BJP or because they see no future in the Grand old party. The exits and public outbursts have become a major problem for the party trying to invent itself with a Bharat Jodo Yatra. Rahul Gandhi will walk from Southern India to the North, in an effort to galvanise people against the BJP but it's more of a non-political effort. The yatra will come also in the midst of the Congress' organisational elections and the Congress President will be announced in October. But in this episode, Sunetra Choudhury looks at the larger challenges that the new President faces. Speaking to the author and journalist Rasheed Kidwai, she distils Congress' problems to five major factors- Human Resources, Leadership Confusion, Communication, Lack of modern tools and finally, Funding. Listen for more Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2012-2022: Congress’ decade of decline

If there's one person who has challenged the might of the Bhartiya Janata Party in the last year, it's West Bengal Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee. The third time chief minister isn't just satisfied at having beaten the BJP severely in the state in the 2021 elections. The 67-year-old hasn't forgotten the way she was taunted by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Home Minister Amit Shah and the entire union cabinet which camped in the state ahead of the elections. On Independence day, Banerjee said that Modi and the BJP will not be returning to power in 2024. It's an assertion that comes after lots of activity in the past few weeks and months. Two of her closest aides Anubrata Mondal and Partha Chatterjee have been arrested by enforcement agencies on corruption charges but like other opposition leaders, Banerjee says it's a clear sign that the BJP is running scared of losing elections and that's why they are targeting her key men and she's not afraid. In this episode, we look at the various aspects of the Trinamool Congress versus Bhartiya Janata Party fight. The BJP may not have won Bengal, but they did manage to win 77 seats last year, which was a major jump from the 3 seats they held in the previous election. The BJP also won 18 of the 42 seats in the 2019 elections and if they improve this in 2024, it will be a major stepping stone towards the central rule. So, who's right- Mamata or Modi? We look at what the two have in common (you'd be surprised at how much they share) and where key differences lie. We also look at how Hindutva was tweaked in Bengal and now how it's playing out nationally. And finally, we look at the role of Abhishek Banerjee, her nephew and the party's general secretary with his national ambition. Journalist and author of Mamata: Beyond 2021 (https://www.amazon.in/MAMATA-Beyond-2021-Jayanta-Ghosal/dp/9354894933) Jayanta Ghoshal and senior fellow at the Centre for Policy Research, Neelanjan Sircar, join HT's Sunetra Choudhury in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Challenge Of Mamata Banerjee

It's been a week since Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar called it quits on his long-standing ally, the Bhartiya Janata Party(BJP). It's a game-changing moment in politics if ever there was one. That's because the state is extremely political and Kumar's entry into the opposition camp can completely change the game. Or is that just hype? In this episode, host Sunetra Choudhury who has reported on the state since Kumar first came to power in 2005, just focuses on the three principal players in this entire drama- Nitish Kumar, RJD leader and now deputy chief minister Tejashwi Yadav and their rival, the BJP. The post-mortem finds that out of all three, it is Tejashwi Yadav who stands to be the biggest gainer in this entire episode. He was just 28 when he was taken by surprise and jilted by Nitish Kumar. Five years later, he is far from being just his father's son. Yadav is now the party with the largest numbers in the state and he's got here, without the baggage of having to entice breakaways from the ruling party. Nitish Kumar has switched sides before but is the morality of being a party-hopper, really the most important point in this episode? Maybe not, considering that it comes so soon after the BJP's coup in Maharashtra. What's more pertinent is the manner in which the opposition has used it to launch the 2024 campaign. It is unclear if Kumar will be the opposition's face against Narendra Modi and if that will be a successful bid. However, the 2024 battle has certainly become much more interesting now. Finally, the takeaways for India's ruling party. The episode finds that just a month before the switch, party president JP Nadda had said this about BJP versus regional parties: ``We are such a party that is ideology-based, standing on ideological grounds. I always say this to people, if there was no ideology then we couldn’t have fought this huge fight. Everyone is sold out, and destroyed and those who haven’t will be destroyed. There will be one and only BJP that will exist. There is no such national party to fight against the Bharatiya Janata Party in today’s date. There’s no national party of any ideology left.'' These words have struck deep into the hearts of many party leaders. As Sunetra notes in the podcast, the BJP has been successful to reducing the Congress to a marginal player. So, will it do the same to marginal parties too? In this episode, Sunetra is joined by HCU Professor Tanweer Fazal and journalist Prakash K Rai Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Switch: Post Mortem of a Nitish-BJP Split

Who do you think is the BJP’s big challenger in the next round of elections? Is it Congress or has AAP completely replaced them as challengers? In this latest episode, Sunetra speaks to the man who’s leading the AAP campaign in the election-headed states of Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh, Sandeep Pathak. Pathak epitomises how AAP is different. But are they making their rivals run scared? Find out in this episode which also features political scientists Sanjay Kumar of CSDS and Ashutosh Kumar of Panjab University. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who’s afraid of Aam Aadmi Party

When Amit Shah said recently that the BJP would be in power for the next 30-40 years, was it political rhetoric or is there truth to what he said? It is already in power in 19 out of 28 states and is also heading towards wins in Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh. Their critics say it is all about money and power but that is just one side of the story. In this episode, HT’s political editor Sunetra Choudhury traces their strategy with the help of Bhupendra Yadav, Key minister and strategist. From ideology to Modi Magic, it’s down to 5 key factors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Will BJP rule for the next 30 years?

In this weekly podcast on Indian politics. host Sunetra Choudhury, National Political Affairs Editor for Hindustan Times talks about her 2 decades of experience and realization that politics is often like reality TV, full of dramatic personalities making strategic moves. So, get ready as we take you inside the corridors of power to understand what the Netas are talking about and how their moves ripple effect on us. This is a Hindustan Times podcast, produced by HT Smartcast.

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