This episode features an interview with Andrew from NYC Anarchist Black Cross, specifically focusing on their Project Fang initiative. Project Fang is a much-needed attempt to fill a gap in the ongoing support work for earth and animal liberation prisoners in the United States. From the NYC Anarchist Black Cross site, "As people with loved ones, friends, and comrades in prison, we know how necessary and reinvigorating visits can be. They help us stay connected with one another and with the struggles we all care about. They help us overcome the separation of walls and wire. Unfortunately, visits are cost prohibitive for many of our friends, families, and comrades.This project aims to help with the financial strain imposed on the families and loved ones of prisoners by providing cash allowances for travel expenses to and from prisons." We also discuss NYC ABC's bi-weekly political prisoner letter writing dinners that include a vegan meal in a very deliberate way, the potential for further repression against environmental activists as instances of direct action for the earth increase, some of the folks that Project Fang supports, veganism in the anarchist community and how an anarchist analysis of non-human animals has changed over time. Donate to Project Fang here! : https://fundrazr.com/project_fang or send a check or money order payable to NYC ABC to: project FANG c/o NYC ABC Post Office Box 110034 Brooklyn, New York 11211 Learn more about the NYC Anarchist Black Cross Learn more about Marius Mason   Subscribe to and rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts (though also available on Spotify, Google Play and Podcast Addict); send feedback, questions, or ideas to includinganimals@gmail.com.

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Project Fang!

This episode features an interview with lauren Ornelas, founder and executive director of the Food Empowerment Project. We discuss what FEP is all about, colonization in regard to food, gentrification and the importance of vegan restaurants being part of the community, helping communities with a lack of access to healthy foods, farm worker-led boycotts, the problem with organizations like PETA having the spotlight, and more. Here are links to some of the specifics mentioned: Reclaiming Our Grassroots Colonization, Food, and the Practice of Eating Vegan Mexican Food Vegan Filipino Food Blindspotting Subscribe to and rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts (though also available on Spotify, Google Play and Podcast Addict); send feedback, questions, or ideas to includinganimals@gmail.com.

Food Empowerment Project

This episode features an interview with Margaret Killjoy, an anarchist  science fiction author, trans woman, musician, and overall amazing artist. In this interview I ask Margaret about what it was like being an anarchist traveler on the road both in the US and internationally, the meaning of community, what brought her to veganism and why it stuck, why anarchists aren't as staunchly vocal about veganism as other convictions they stand for, balancing being a non-preachy vegan against hearing anti-vegan sentiment, and as always favorite meals. You can check out all of Margaret's incredible work (including links to all of her published books and a vast array of non-fiction musings), hear her music, subscribe to her newsletter and get linked to her Patreon and social media on her blog at birdsbeforethestorm.net To check out the rad items in her Etsy store visit: etsy.com/shop/birdsbeforethestorm Subscribe to and rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts (though also available on Spotify, Google Play and Podcast Addict); send feedback, questions, or ideas to includinganimals@gmail.com.

Margaret Killjoy

This episode is an interview with the organizers of POP Gym, a radical project that offers free classes for fitness, self-defense, and self care with the motto of "Strength in Ourselves, Strength in Our Communities". We discuss the concept of self defense, what sets POP Gym apart from other spaces that offer self defense training, fat shaming in the vegan community, non-intersectional moments in A.R. protests, their awesome Riot Don't Diet merch, and much more!  To learn more about POP Gym, find a slew of comprehensive self-defense resources + some super fun gifs, and to order their amazing zines and other merch, visit popgym.org.   Subscribe to and rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts; send feedback, questions, or ideas to includinganimals@gmail.com.

POP Gym

In this mini-episode, I give an intro. to the MOVE 9 (political prisoners in the state of PA), the majority of whom were held in prison since 1978 and just recently were granted parole. Among many other forms of oppression they fought against, non-human animal abuse was one. I highlight this by playing a clip from a Prison Radio episode, in which Mumia Abu Jamal (another political prisoner) discusses MOVE's views around animals. Prison Radio Episode and Archive About the MOVE 9 NYC Anarchist Black Cross Illustrated Guide Subscribe to and rate on Apple Podcasts; send feedback, questions, or ideas to includinganimals@gmail.com.

MOVE 9 Mini-Episode

Today I speak with a friend who works as an eviction defense attorney in NYC. She tells us about the current challenges that low-income tenants are up against, and gives a general overview of the housing crisis here. We discuss what a typical week is like for a housing lawyer and the importance of tenant organizing. We also touch upon the issue of food deserts and why those struggling with poverty might not be receptive to the message of the mainstream vegan movement.

Housing Crisis in NYC

This episode focuses on the importance of having solidarity with people in prison, and how that correlates to having solidarity with non-human animals (and vice versa). I had to cut out a lot because I didn't like the way I sounded, but there will be many more episodes in the future around prisoner support work. (recorded June 2019) Here are links to some orgs./people mentioned:  NYC Anarchist Black Cross Jalil Muntaquim Chelsea Manning Eric King Subscribe to and rate on Apple Podcasts; send feedback, questions, or ideas to includinganimals@gmail.com.

Political Prisoner Support

This episode also touches upon mutual aid and food justice with the Long Island based organization Community Solidarity, in addition to showing solidarity with migrants and the missing 43 students in Mexico taken from the Ayotzinapa Rural Teachers' College (known as the 2014 Iguala mass kidnapping). (recorded May 2019) Here are links to some issues discussed: Community Solidarity Missing 43 Students Update on licenses for the undocumented - victory! Earthlings Good Samaritan Food Donation Act   Subscribe to and rate on Apple Podcasts; send feedback, questions, or ideas to includinganimals@gmail.com.

Community Solidarity

Speaking with Michelle Carrera, founder of Chilis on Wheels, about her time in Puerto Rico, decolonization, food justice, veganism, mutual aid and solidarity work, and more. Learn more about Chilis on Wheels here! (recorded May 2019) Subscribe to and rate on Apple Podcasts; send feedback, questions, or ideas to includinganimals@gmail.com.

Chilis on Wheels

My very first interview so the sound isn't at its greatest but definitely audible! The conversation is also a pretty intense one as my guest is a very intense person. We talk about a lot including farming and why people in radical spaces don’t go vegan even though their ethics should align. My guest brings up principles of afro-ecology, nihilism, Lucy Parsons, anarchists, anti-civ, and just give a listen if you want to hear the perspective of a very unique and interesting individual. (recorded April 2019)   Subscribe and rate at Apple podcasts; email includinganimals@gmail.com for feedback, show ideas, or questions.

Farming, Nihilism, and More

Including Animals is a podcast about ethical veganism in a fucked up world. Featuring interviews with radical activists, thinkers, writers and others who include non-human animals in their anti-oppression framework, our conversations refuse to leave animals behind in of our collective work towards radical liberation and justice. Including Animals demands that listeners recognize that the exploitation and domination of non-human animals must be brought to an end, while understanding how white-dominant vegan culture too often ignores the root causes of industrial animal exploitation and suffering -- capitalism and white supremacy. The duel challenges of fighting for animals in left spaces while rejecting a singular focus of animal liberation requires an analysis of the relationship between these systems and the commonalities of victims of capitalist exploitation.

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