Geraldine has been mulling over the debate about women & society's expectations of their behaviour since the Grace Tame famously gave the Prime Minister the angry 'side-eye'. Geradline finally realised what had been making her uncomfortable: the notion that getting angry will somehow be cathartic & freeing. She believes the opposite - that anger is a dead weight that stops you from progressing. So this week, Eliza and Geraldine weigh in - about women's right to be angry, about the inequalities that still exist in the system, and how different generations of women feel about this conversation. Also this week, will there be a war in Europe? And why Boris Johnson has ceded his moral authority. Thanks for listening! Get in touch via the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com The Reason Putin Would Risk War - The Atlantic, Anne Applebaum https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/02/putin-ukraine-democracy/621465/ The reaction to Grace Tame leads to a question: Why are so many of us uncomfortable with the face of an angry woman? Virginia Trioli, ABC https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-12/grade-tame-brittany-higgins-unmasked-anger-by-product-of-trauma/100820420 Women are set to deliver political shocks - John Black, AFR https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/women-are-set-to-deliver-poll-shocks-20220208-p59usg

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Why getting angry won't make young women happy

It's the first week back of Parliament in an election year, so hold onto your hats, because it's going to be a wild ride. In this episode, Eliza asks Geraldine to what extent the Prime Minister's character - and that of the aspiring leader Anthony Albanese - might influence people's votes? Also this week, Geraldine reads Oh, William! by Elizabeth Strout and enjoys the Summer of Soul. Thanks for listening! Get in touch via the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com

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(Reloading this as version 1 had a lot of glitches) Welcome back to the first podcast of 2022! A fair bit has occured since Eliza and Geraldine last sat down for a chat. The Omicron variant of COVID is raging and scratched a bit of sheen off Eliza's earlier optimism. Two giants of the 20th century died over the Christmas break: South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu and American journalist & author Desmond Tutu. And Geraldine has explored regional Australia and the stories that underpin our national consciousness. Join the conversation at the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com Thanks for listening! Joan Didion obit https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/books/joan-didion-dead.html The Central Park Jogger Case - Joan Didion https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1991/01/17/new-york-sentimental-journeys/ The Year of Magical Thinking - Joan Didion https://www.amazon.com.au/Year-Magical-Thinking-Joan-Didion/dp/1400078431 The Coming Storm - BBC Radio 4 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001324r Desmond Tutu obit https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/26/the-most-rev-desmond-tutu-obituary The Power of the Dog https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10293406/ Munich: The Edge of War https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81144852

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See ya later 2021, come on down 2022! Thanks so much for your company this year! Here are the links to our conversation: FMG's CEO steps down https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/elizabeth-gaines-steps-down-as-chief-executive-of-fortescue-metals-group-20211210-p59gji.html Robyn Denholm at Tesla https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-09/elon-musk-can-an-australian-woman-reign-in-tesla-maverick-ceo/10480926 The White Lotus https://binge.com.au/shows/show-the-white-lotus!10491 The Beatles: Get Back https://www.disneyplus.com/en-gb/series/the-beatles-get-back/7DcWEeWVqrkE Us – TV (ABC) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10669608/ 9/12 podcast – Pineapple Street studios https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/9-12/id1581684171 Journo podcast – Nick Bryant and the Judith Neilson Insitute https://jninstitute.org/education/journo-podcast/ The Living Sea of Waking Dreams by Richard Flanagan https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-living-sea-of-waking-dreams-richard-flanagan/book/9781760899943.html?source=pla&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5OuNBhCRARIsACgaiqUgyXZ3_fUFO9YwBXgTYYIu-YVyDdeXikEARJoZanLMtgJL4244EoYaAhWREALw_wcB Beware Prophecies of Civil War – The Atlantic - Fintan O’Toole https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/america-civil-war-prophecies/620850/ Jamie Raskin’s Year of Grief and Purpose, Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2021/12/06/jamie-raskins-year-grief-purpose/ A Person of the Year: Jamie Raskin – The New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/a-person-of-the-year-jamie-raskin

Best of 2021

Late in the episode, which is full of the usual politics chat, Eliza makes a big revelation: she's grown tired of the "Renegades" podcast. It features former President Barack Obama & rocker Bruce Springsteen talking American culture, masculinity and of course ... music! What's not to love? But it's long and meandering and ends up leaving her a bit blerg. Also this week, Hilary Clinton warns the world not to forget Russia as focus shifts to China. And the countdown to Christmas is on. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at LDC Podcast or email ldcpodccast1@gmail.com

Is Renegades a bit ... dull?

As the political year draws to a close in Canberra, an election is looming for the not-too-distant-future. Geraldine and Eliza discuss an article published in the Australian Financial Review this week headlined “This election is about who you trust not the change your lives”. It's written by the head of a Labor-aligned think tank, the John Curtin Research Centre. The article concludes that “these are nation-building times, but people desire change with continuity”. So what does that mean for the contest at the next election? Also this week, Eliza’s pick for TV interview of the year. Geraldine watches a new documentary on Billy Graham. And the pros and cons of fake fruit. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com -- Bloodlands - SBS on Demand https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11285548/ Say Nothing - Patrick Radden Keefe https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40163119-say-nothing Good Friday Peace Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday_Agreement Project Rozana https://projectrozana.org This election is about who you trust not the change your lives - Australian Financial Review https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/this-election-is-about-who-you-trust-not-to-change-your-lives-20211129-p59d6m BBC's Steve Rosenberg interview President Lukashenko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdxBOOnVgnY Fake fruit is trendy again - NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/27/style/fake-food-is-trendy-again.html

Who You Trust Not To Change Your Lives

Geraldine and Eliza discuss a new three-part series on 'cancel culture' recently published in 9 Newspapers. James Button, the former speechwriter for Labor Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and son of Hawke Government minister John Button, has undertaken the important but challenging task of looking at this movement which began in the United States. In this series, Button explores the rise of cancel culture in Australia and how these conversations are influencing progressive politics. Also this week, hunting for the right dress as we emerge back into public life. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com. 'They cancelled me as a human' What nearly killed logie winner Hugh Sheridan - article 1 https://www.smh.com.au/national/they-cancelled-me-as-a-human-what-nearly-killed-logie-winner-hugh-sheridan-20211027-p593ls.html Gender, Sex and Power: the debate dividing universities - article 2 https://www.smh.com.au/national/gender-sex-and-power-the-debate-dividing-universities-20211118-p599zz.html The educational divide that threatens to split the left - article 3 https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/the-educational-divide-that-threatens-to-split-the-left-20211118-p59a8k.html The demoralising search for the dress that fits - Kristie Clements, The New Daily https://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/style/2021/11/20/kirstie-clements-dress-shopping-sizing/

Is Cancel Culture Just Modern Censorship?

Have you listened to a new good podcast recently? Eliza recently trawled through the Apple iTunes Top Charts for new content. She found '9/12' which explores how September 11 shaped American culture. It's one of the best things she's ever listened to. Also this week, Geraldine on John Bell's Boyer Lecture series. And a new, dark twist on one of Geraldine's favourite TV shows, Grantchester. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com. 9/12 podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/9-12/id1581684171 Rolling Stone on the podcast 9/12 https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/9-12-podcast-september-11th-attacks-1219408/ Pineapple Street Studios http://pineapple.fm Because of Anita - podcast https://pineapple.fm/because-of-anita Mayday - BBC podcast https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000p6fd Life Sentences Biography Today - podcast with Caroline Baum https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/lucky-man-hermione-lee-on-tom-stoppard/id1559400094?i=1000537118791 The Boyer Lectures with John Bell https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/boyerlectures/ Grantchester - ABC Iview https://iview.abc.net.au/show/grantchester

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Did you know that the Dollarmites program had been cancelled? Geraldine and Eliza missed the news. In October, the Commonwealth Bank cancelled its school-banking program after criticism that it pushed banking products on children, instead of being an educational tool about financial literacy. Eliza and Geraldine discuss the pros and cons of talking to kids about money and what it reveals about your family. Also, the nuance and depth of the TV show 'Morning Wars'. Eliza binged season 1 on her break from work and recommends it to her Mum. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com Commonwealth Bank drops Dollarmites - CHOICE https://www.choice.com.au/money/banking/everyday-banking/articles/commonwealth-bank-drops-dollarmites Morning Wars brings nuance, complexity to hot-button topics of the day - SMH https://www.smh.com.au/culture/tv-and-radio/morning-wars-brings-nuance-complexity-to-hot-button-topics-of-the-day-20211004-p58x0g.html Hello Sunshine - Reese Witherspoon's production company https://hello-sunshine.com/our-story

Death of Dollarmites

We're less than two weeks away from the big climate change conference in Glasgow, COP 26. Which means news bulletins are heavy with acronyms and jargon that few of us really understand. Eliza wants to rebrand 'net zero' into something that makes a bit more sense. In fact she wants a whole new conversation around climate change and the ways in which we (and the Government) intend to respond to it. Also this week, deadly clashes in Lebanon. And the pros and cons of internet shopping. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com

Deciphering Net Zero

Big news this week: Eliza has a new job! And she's launched a new podcast. She's moving to 'The Squiz' as Content Director. She'll write the Squiz Daily email and co-host the podcast, which is a quick hit of news designed to fit into busy people's morning routine - for the commute, the gym or over a morning coffee. Eliza started as an ABC cadet in the Hobart newsroom in 2007. It's a big & exciting change. Also this week, Eliza's launched 'Reunion: The Podcast'. She was meant to be celebrating her 20 year school reunion with a big party in Sydney. But Delta interupted those plans. So she's joined forces with her friend Grace Brennan to catch up with old school mates. Some loved their time at school, while others felt trapped. Grace and Eliza want to know why; and how school shaped their choices in later life. Geraldine reflects on her podcast 'Plenary Matters' and what it revealed about the state of the Cathoic Church. And why covid will be an era, not a crisis. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page 'LDC Podcast' or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com The Squiz https://www.thesquiz.com.au Reunion: The Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/reunion-the-podcast/id1589659461 Plenary Matters https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/plenary-matters/id1587458085 Past Pandemics Remind Us Covid Will Be an Era, Not a Crisis - NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/health/when-will-covid-end.html

Jobs & Pods

Geraldine is launching a new podcast called "Plenary Matters". She'll follow a big, important gathering of the Catholic Church in Australia called the Plenary Council which will govern the future of the institution, of which she cares for so deeply. You can find it on iTunes, Spotify or however you listen to your podcasts. Also this week - how should employers and employees navigate the "Great Resignation" resulting from the global pandemic? And Eliza follows the Theranos trial in America. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com Plenary Matters podcast https://plenary-matters.zencast.website/episodes/preview-plenary-matters Here comes the Great Resignation - ABC Radio National https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-24/the-great-resignation-post-pandemic-work-life-balance/100478866 The latest data on suicide rates https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-01/abs-data-suicide-rates-still-high-despite-2020-covid-drop/100504214 The Dropout podcast - Elizabeth Holmes on trial https://abcaudio.com/podcasts/the-dropout/ Bad Blood podcast - John Carreyrou https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/bad-blood-the-final-chapter/id1575738174

Plenary Matters

This week, Eliza saw a tweet from Dr Briony Scott, a revered high school principal in Sydney. It said "Parenting is a word - a verb - that did not exist prior to the mid 1970s. It sounds a bit like herding or directing or managing - none of which really work for children. They simply cannot be controlled, as much as it is tempting to believe. They are themselves." It made Eliza think about all the times she refers to 'parenting' .. rather than 'raising' or 'nurturing' children. Geraldine believes that parents are akin to the Managing Director and Chairperson of the family unit. And that ultimately, if you can find joy in your children, that's the best way to be a parent. Also this week, Eliza and Geraldine consider the left-right political divide. Hannah Arendt and Eichmann's trial. And the AFL Grand Final goes to Perth! Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com On All Fronts - Clarissa Ward https://www.amazon.com/All-Fronts-Education-Journalist/dp/0525561471 Eichmann in Jerusalem: The Banality of Evil https://www.amazon.com/Eichmann-Jerusalem-Banality-Penguin-Classics/dp/0143039881 Martin Heidegger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger Kangaroo rescue in Canberra https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/good-news/2021/09/21/kangaroo-rescue-canberra/ The threat from the illiberal left - The Economist https://www.economist.com/leaders/2021/09/04/the-threat-from-the-illiberal-left

Parenting

Eliza starts this week with a gripe about the new phrases creeping into modern English language. Lately, Eliza has heard references to people's professional 'space'. And it's not just 'space' - there's also been discussion of the 'piece'. So workplaces now have a diversity 'piece' and perhaps even a wellness 'piece'. Eliza thought her Mum would be a willing participant in this discussion, such is Geraldine's dislike of mangled English. But Geraldine thinks 'space' and 'piece' actually speak to the new zones and norms in the workplace that are often hard to define. Also this week, the Covid midlife crisis and how it's changing the lives of middle class women in America. Eliza reads Lisa Millar's new book 'Daring to Fly'. And Geraldine considers the joy of an uncomplicated life. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page 'LDC Podcast' or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com The Prime Ministers podcast - BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01083zj/episodes/player The New Yorker Politics & More podcast - Dexter Filkins https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/political-scene/dexter-filkins-on-the-fall-of-afghanistan The Briefing Room – Who’s supporting the Taliban? BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000ymn1 Remembering 9/11 - Saturday Extra ABC Radio National https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/saturdayextra/the-cultural-legacy-of-9-11,-20-years-on/13535334 Worth - Netflix https://www.netflix.com/au/title/80226212 The Rise of the Covid Midlife Crisis – Lizzie Widdicombe https://www.newyorker.com/culture/dept-of-returns/the-rise-of-the-covid-midlife-crisis Nick Cohen on Sally Rooney. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/11/so-sally-rooneys-racist-only-if-you-choose-to-confuse-fiction-with-fact?fbclid=IwAR03InNxp3UWcm1BPunOTs6WE-E7THyD7Lqwe4sOlYhfYw0WBC-0WYsJ7jQ Daring to Fly - Lisa Millar https://www.hachette.com.au/lisa-millar/daring-to-fly-the-tv-star-on-facing-fear-and-finding-joy-on-a-deadline

The New Work 'Space'

Where were you on September 11, 2001? Geraldine had gone to bed on Tuesday evening, September 10, expecting to do an ABC Radio "Life Matters" special on apprenticeships the following morning. Instead, she woke up to vision of the smouldering ruins of the Twin Towers. She furiously scrambled to line up a new show that captured that horrors of the previous 12 hours. Eliza and Geraldine discuss 9/11 and what came next - terrorism in Asia - and a generation of people forged in the reality of the War on Terror. Thanks for listening! Join the conversation at the Facebook page "LDC Podcast" or email ldcpodcast1@gmail.com The Falling Man documentary https://tvblackbox.com.au/page/2021/09/06/stunning-documentary-9-11-the-falling-man-premieres-tonight-on-sbs/ The Looming Tower TV series https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6474236/ The Looming Tower (book) https://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road-11/dp/1400030846 The Children of 9/11: Our Story https://www.channel4.com/programmes/children-of-911-our-story The AFR on David Jenkins new book on Soeharto https://www.afr.com/world/asia/it-took-me-longer-to-write-soeharto-s-story-than-for-him-to-live-it-20210825-p58lpj Heartburn Nora Ephron https://www.amazon.com/Heartburn-Nora-Ephron/dp/0679767959 Everything is Copy https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2831414/

9/11

Eliza Harvey is an Australian journalist who moved to Indonesia from Australia in 2015. Each week she phones her Mum -- ABC broadcaster Geraldine Doogue -- back home in Sydney. Both women are news junkies and mothers and avid Netflix fans. But Eliza is a Millennial and Geraldine's a baby boomer, which leads to a different take on life. Tune in for half an hour of laughs and conversation.

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