Khe He decided early in life to earn his way out of some of his childhood insecurities. He went through many harsh routines to achieve. And they "worked." He went on to be very successful in Wall Street as a Managing Director at Black Rock. Yet, he still felt the same nagging feeling inside from childhood. To start to change that feeling required something uncomfortable. He had to get in touch with his emotions and trust even the subtle ones he’d often ignored. After a lifetime of loving numbers and certainty, Khe has a lesson for all leaders to learn to trust your gut and enjoy the present for more lasting motivation. Show notes: 4:11: The certainty of numbers and why they attracted Khe earlier in his life. 6:07: Where Khe's parents came from and how as immigrants they had to rebuild from scratch with the fear that it could all be taken away. 13:58: How the fear from Khe's parents transferred to him and made him afraid of running out of things. 15:09: Khe's feelings when he started achieving large career and financial goals. 21:12: Khe talks about how he started to realize the importance of his emotions after ignoring them for much of his life. 25:30 Khe talks about how he's now shifted his focus to no longer really focus on external goals and more on activities that bring joy. 29:43: Learning to let go of a scarcity mindset and the idea that for something to be enjoyable you have to have suffered to get it. 32:18: A great example about letting go of an old mindset about needing to suffer through discussions with his wife on whether to purchase economy or economy plus 35:00: How coaching helped Khe break down fear about going back to his old life  41:39 Khe's plea for you to listen to your gut and save yourself from seeking too many external rewards.

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