In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on the topic of church planting and revitalization. I mean first, what is church planting? What is church revitalization? Are they the same? What makes each of those routes a different and unique route? They will visit and explain their brief thoughts on the difference between church planting and revitalization.    Some highlights from today’s episode. Both church planting and revitalization are very difficult.  Church plant is like a jet ski and church revitalization is a big ship in the bay.  Majority of churches, from 60-80% have either plateaued or in a decline.  Reading culture is like asking a fish, “what is water?”  Churches have become content with doing church rather than being the church.  Dying churches have failed to live Hebrews 13:7 to faithfully follow biblical leaders.  Church revitalization needs to know what kind of baggage the church carries.  Ministry is not about you. “Jonathan, you’re doing this for yourself” Sad reality check.  People are looking for rest as they are overburdened. Point them to Jesus. That’s revitalization.  As much as you need the church, the church needs you.  So many young pastors overestimate what you can accomplish in the first year of ministry.  Stay in your church faithfully for 5 years and see how God will bless you in that ministry.  We live in a McDonald's society where we want it right now hot and salty!  “I love you church. Now, go make disciples” that’s my outro.  Church can be a continually discouraging place. You will need encouragement.  “I love you” cannot be an abstract principle. I need to not just believe it but show it.    Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation. 1. What is the Difference Between the Two? What Do We Mean by That?  - Church planting: No building, no budget starting from scratch. No history with a fresh start.  - Church revitalization: Has building, budget, and bylaw (legwork). But tons of baggage.  - Church revelation and replanting are not the same either.  - Planters have the disadvantage of fundraising and other important matters.    2. The Mission of the Church through America.  - Majority of churches throughout America are dying for various reasons.  - Baggage: Ministry is just hard.  - Jesus came for the spiritually sick. (Mark 2:17) - Church plants can be filled with people who are hurt and broken.  - What is the “Golden calf” of the church?  - “Come to me for those who are overburdened and weary” (Matt 11:28-30).    3. Process in Planting and Revitalization  - If you’re a planter, you’re most likely proud.  - Jesus walked and did ministry. That’s how we are supposed to do ministry.  - Take your time in doing ministry.  - Wherever God calls you to serve, just stay there and serve there faithfully.    4. Calling in Planting and Revitalization is not Second Option  - If you don’t have a calling, you will fail.  - Majority of churches that plant do fail.  - Some people who are serving do not have patience and will fail.  - Gospel-Driven Ministry vs. Emotional Reactive Ministry.    5. Suggestion for Planters or Revitalizers  - Model who you want the church you want to become.  - Check your expectation: what are your thoughts there?  - Surround yourself with the right people.  - Encouragement: “I’m just so encouraged to see the effort you put into.”      Feedback If you have a question, you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at jonathanhayashi.com.   Thanks for listening! If you have found this podcast helpful, go to iTunes and leave a rating & review! That is one simple way you can help me get this in the ears of as many people as possible. Thanks for the help!   Ordinary Radicals Podcast is a member of the HNR.GD Network  

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Episode 27: The Need for Church Planting and Revitalization

In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on the topic of church members considering going to bible college / seminary. This undoubtedly is one of the most frequently asked question. It is a question that burns within the soul of a young person who sense the calling into ministry. What are the pros and cons of theological education? What are things to consider as we see the categorical priorities for seminary?   Some highlights from today’s episode.     Seminary is not one size fits all. There’s a lot to think about.     Interested not only what happens in the classroom, but also outside of the classroom.     Seminary is not for everybody.     Life is about learning and growing. Seminary sometime can be a hinderance.     If you have an excuse not to go, you can always find reason not to go.     You’re not too old to go back to seminary. Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation. 1. The Huge Benefits for Considering Seminary - Greek & Hebrew for New Testament and Old Testament. - Lifelong friendship you make in both bible college and seminary life. - Teaching happens in synagogues. Seminary is not for everyone. - Seminary doesn’t make one a great pastor.   2. Different Avenues of Learning and Growing - Mission field is a great place to learn. - Churches will be found faithful in stewardship of training discipling the next generation. - “Let the dead bury the dead” (Luke 9:60).   3. Excuses for Not Going to Seminary? - Online Platform learning: Doctoral Classes (PhD) is available today virtually (or Modular). - Three layers consideration: (1) Geographical (2) Educational (3) Financial. - Not too old to start following God’s calling. That is not the best reason NOT to go.   4. Benefits of Being a Seminary Student as a Result - Friendship and companionship. You can learn from different point of views. - “I want to be a pastor. Therefore, I must go to seminary” Not true. - Example: Spurgeon never went to school. - Seminary pushes you out of your bounds.   Feedback If you have a question, you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at jonathanhayashi.com. Thanks for listening! If you have found this podcast helpful, go to iTunes and leave a rating & review! That is one simple way you can help me get this in the ears of as many people as possible. Thanks for the help! Ordinary Radicals Podcast is a member of the HNR.GD Network  

Episode 26: Should I Go to Seminary?

Is your church or ministry struggling to reach the next generation?

Episode 25: Struggles of Reaching the Next Generation

Leaders can be effective by giving room and not pidgin-holding in a box and limiting others.

Episode 24: Disciplines of an Effective Leader

Dietrich Bonhoeffer puts it this way in his book Life Together, “Those who remain alone with their evil are left utterly alone.”

Episode 23: Destructive Nature of Private Sin

You want to be a generous person, but are you helping the person? Is it giving in to their addiction hurting the person? How much should you trust the person that you do not know? At the end of the day, is it the heart that matters? What should you do? 

Episode 22: What Should You Do When People Ask for Money?

Do you ever wonder why God makes us wait on certain things? Whether good or bad? Why does God do that? Here are five points we lay out as we converse on waiting on the LORD.

Episode 21: Five Reasons Why God Makes Us Wait

Can one definitely be certain of one’s salvation? Isn’t that the question we ask in funerals? Is he/she really saved? This could be a real dilemma for families that are mourning over the death of a loved one.

Episode 20: How Can You Tell If Someone is Truly Saved? 

What were bits of information that would have been helpful to known before entering into ministry? Here are five things that bible college/seminary did not teach us but has been helpful knowing serving in the local church. 

Episode 19: Things I Wished I’d Known Before Ministry

Theological disagreement can cause church splits, tear up churches and ultimately jeopardize Christian Unity.

Episode 18: How to Disagree on Theological Differences

In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on a heavy heart wrenching topic of racism in America.

Episode 17: RACISM • JESUS • ME

Average person is living with an incredible amount of debt. Statistics says the average is $90,000.00.

Episode 16: Should I Tithe Even If I’m Struggling?

Worship is a hot topic and should always be a hot topic! Why? Because worship matters.

Episode 15: Should We Sing Bethel?

How should pastors reach local congregants through the preaching of God’s Word? How could churches collect tithes and offerings? What about pastoral care in providing resources for the flock?

Episode 14: Coronavirus?! How Should Churches Respond?

Can a gospel-loving Christian still care about politics at the same time? If a Christian is more on one side either to the right or left, still be a faithful Christian?

Episode 13: Politics and The Gospel in an Age of Rage

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