On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, I am joined by music journalist Adrian Thrills.Adrian became a fan of The Jam from 1976 - pre-Polydor record deal - seeing them at the 100 Club, upstairs at Ronnie Scotts, The Marquee, Red Cow in Hammersmith and at many more gigs... Together with his friend, Shane McGowan, Adrian did one of the very first interviews with the band for own 48 Thrills fanzine (One of the original punk fanzines that launched in '76).As a friend, and journalist, he became part of the inner-circle, even joining the band on the road with gigs in Dunstable, Crawley, Malvern, Falkirk and Barrow-in-Furnesss...Adrian spent the 1980s at NME, where he continued to feature and review The Jam, even conducting one of the final interviews with Paul before the split at the end of 1982.Look closely at the rear sleeve for live album Dig the New Breed for a brilliant shout-out too!"A brief six years , sweaty frantic Red Cow residency, 1st week 50 people, 2nd week 100, by the fourth week. A queue around the block! SWITCH the marquee with Shane, Claudio and Adrian dancing on stage to the confusion of the usual Marquee hippies!"In more recent years, Adrian has been a music writer for The Daily Mail and he's reviewed plenty of Paul Weller albums in his time there.He also created sleeve notes on The Very Best of The Jam, The Jam Live at the BBC and the Hit Parade boxset in 2006. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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EP166 - Adrian Thrills - Music Journalist shares his experiences of The Jam and Paul Weller from 1976 to Solo…

On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, we hear the incredible story of Reaction - a Mod-influenced band from Burton-on-Trent, formed in November 1980 by Bruno Gallone.It was a real delight to hear Bruno's incredible story from creating the band before he could even play an instrument to their first gig a few weeks later at the Guild Street Mod night in Burton....What came next sounds too good to be true... but yes it actually happened.... on this podcast chat we dig in to the quite frankly ridiculously brilliant story of how, just a year later, the band got to support their heroes, The Jam, at the Hammersmith Palais in London (15th Dec 1981).Playing mainly in venues throughout the midlands and London, REACTION played with passion and energy building a strong following in the Mod Revival scene, playing their own headline shows and with the likes of Secret Affair, Purple Hearts, and The Lambrettas amongst others.Although there were several personnel changes throughout their short time, they stayed fiercely loyal to their beliefs and especially their home town, right up until their very last gig in May 1982.Bruno returned to music in 2006 as a solo artist, and during lockdown ended up creating new music with Reaction for an album that celebrated their part in the Mod Revival. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP165 - Bruno Gallone - on his Mod band, Reaction, supporting The Jam and more...

With the 40th anniversary of the release of Introducing The Style Council (Sept 1983), it seemed fitting to spend an episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast revelling in the enduring magic of this iconic band.To commemorate this milestone, we have the privilege of diving into the heartfelt stories of two unwavering super-fans, Brenda Taylor and Karen McBride.Their journey into the world of The Style Council began against the backdrop of the early '80s when Brenda, already a devoted fan of The Jam, crossed paths with Karen while working as nurses. Little did they know that their shared passion for music, particularly the soulful sounds of The Style Council and the enigmatic Paul Weller, would lay the foundation for an extraordinary 40-year friendship.What you're about to discover are not just anecdotes, but a treasure trove of memories, laughter, and the kind of escapades that only true music aficionados can relate to. Brenda and Karen's enduring friendship has been interwoven with the music of The Style Council, creating a bond that has withstood the test of time.Their tales will take you on a nostalgic journey through four decades of music and friendship. From intimate gigs in smoky, dimly lit clubs to tales on board the band bus, to organised coach & ferry trips into Europe and jet-setting across the globe to catch electrifying performances, Brenda and Karen have witnessed it all. Their shared experiences reflect the passion and dedication of fans who have truly lived and breathed the music.This episode is a testament to the enduring power of music to unite hearts and transcend time.So, get ready to immerse yourself in the stories that have woven the tapestry of Brenda and Karen's lives together, all thanks to the timeless music of The Style Council. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP164 - Brenda Taylor and Karen McBride - Two super-fans help us to celebrate 40 years of The Style Council...

Episode 163 - Billy Sullivan - Singer, Songwriter & Musician talks Paper Dreams Solo Debut, The Spitfires supporting Paul Weller, a love of The Jam and more.My special guest on this episode of Desperately Seeking Paul - The Paul Weller Fan Podcast is the hugely talented singer, songwriter and musician - Billy Sullivan.His story takes us from a love of music as a child through to the formation of The Spitfires in 2012 and building a cult fan base on their own terms through hundreds of highly energetic and powerful live performances and 5 brilliant studio albums. It’s no surprise that the band came to the attention of Paul Weller and The Specials who both personally invited the band along for support slots.The four-piece from Watford carved out a niche for themselves, blending elements of punk, ska, and rock to create their unique sound.A Young Mod with a Passion for MusicBilly Sullivan's journey in music began at a really young age. Growing up in a music-loving household, he was introduced to the sounds of The Beatles, The Who, Small Faces, and, of course, Paul Weller and The Jam. The band, and particularly the songwriting of Paul Weller, left an indelible mark on Billy's musical sensibilities.It was the band's music that first sparked Billy's interest in playing the guitar. Paul’s sharp lyrics and distinctive guitar work resonated with him deeply, and he set out to learn how to play those iconic riffs.Supporting on Live Dates: The Spitfires and Paul WellerOne of the most remarkable chapters in Billy Sullivan's music career came when The Spitfires were invited to support Paul Weller on tour. The invitation to share the stage with a musical hero was a testament to The Spitfires' rising profile and their authentic sound, image and outlook.Billy has spoken fondly of Paul Weller's influence on his songwriting, citing his ability to craft insightful, socially conscious lyrics as a driving force behind his own work.Billy called time on The Spitfires in December 2021, going on to release an outstanding solo debut album Paper Dreams in March 2023. Recorded over just three days in Coastal Sound recording studios in Liverpool, the album was produced by one-time Weller collaborator Simon Dine. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP163 - Billy Sullivan - Singer, Songwriter & Musician - Paper Dreams Solo, The Spitfires

On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, I am joined by the award-winning stand-up comedian, broadcaster and podcaster, Ian Stone. A huge fan of The Jam and Paul Weller since discovering the band in 1977 via John Peel's late night show on Radio One, Ian published his first book in 2020 – To Be Someone – a memoir about one teenager’s obsession with The Jam…Paul Weller commented “I really liked this book. I’d forgotten how shit it was in the seventies”…We dive into his memory band from hearing that first single to attending live concerts and soundchecks and that specia the connection with the music, the lyrics and the look of the band...In May 1977, The Jam made their mark on the music scene with the release of their debut single, In The City. However, in the midst of this musical revolution, Britain was grappling with widespread discontent, and young Ian Stone's household was no exception. A fourteen-year-old navigating the challenges of school, witnessing Arsenal's dismal football performances, and enduring his parents' crumbling marriage, Ian's life seemed far from idyllic. Beyond his personal struggles, the nation was grappling with its own demons - racial tensions, violence, inner-city riots, police scandals, rising unemployment, and the looming threat of terrorism.But in 1978, one fateful evening would change Ian's life forever. The Jam took the stage at London's Music Machine, igniting an electrifying atmosphere with their iconic sound. As they launched into ninety minutes of unforgettable pop tunes, Ian's world was transformed. The sheer exhilaration of that moment eclipsed anything he had ever experienced.To Be Someone is a vivid account of the five years Ian spent captivated by his obsession with The Jam. He took on weekend jobs to fund his gig attendance, embarked on daring escapades like sneaking onto the roof of the Hammersmith Odeon, and narrowly escaped eviction from a Brighton hotel, only to be saved by none other than Paul Weller himself, who invited Ian and his friends back into the bar.Above all, the book serves as a heartfelt tribute to the band that guided Ian, and countless others, through the tumultuous landscape of Britain in the late 1970s and early 1980s. When Paul Weller eventually announced The Jam's breakup, Ian was left devastated. Yet, for him and the legions who embarked on that transformative five-year journey, their enduring love for the band remains unwavering.To Be Someone captures not only the spirit of a generation but also the indelible impact of The Jam's music on the lives of its ardent fans during a pivotal era in British history. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP162 - Ian Stone - Comedian, Broadcaster & Author of To Be Someone - A Memoir about One Teenager's Obsession with The Jam...

In the realm of music enthusiasts and vinyl collectors, few names command as much respect and admiration as Keb Darge. The legendary out-spoken Scotsman has left an indelible mark on the world of music with has an uncanny ability to unearth rare and forgotten musical treasures.Over the past 40-plus years, he has been heavily involved in the northern soul, deep funk, rockabilly, and sixties garage scenes. On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, we hear the true story about his journey in music - from dance competitions (driven by the prize money on offer!) to a fascination with obscure music genres that lead to him exploring the depths of record distribution warehouses all over the world.As soon as he had enough money together he started collecting and buying Northern Soul in the UK, during regular trips to the US and was starting to play around the Wigan area at the heyday of The Casino. By 1981 he had gained a respectful reputation as a DJ.His legendary nights at London's 'Madame Jojo's' and 'The Blue Note' showcased his knack for introducing audiences to tracks that had been relegated to obscurity. His unique selections rejuvenated dance floors and gave new life to forgotten sounds.This fella had control of Madame Jo Jo’s every Friday for 18 years, and every Saturday for 10 years - playing incredible music that you would normally only hear at the most serious scene events.Keb's uncanny ability to spot musical gold amidst stacks of vinyl propelled him to become a renowned DJ and collector.As you'll hear on this podcast, Keb met Paul Weller whilst DJing at a one of a birthday party for Nicky Weller.The two got along well, and Keb started sourcing rare records for Paul, leading to them DJ’ing together at nights in London and Europe. As he always does with DJs, Keb kept a close eye on what Paul was pulling out of his record box. “Not a duff tune in sight, with records ranging from classic floor fillers to the super obscure. ﻿He was not tainted by any collectors’ scene attitude, just played the tunes he liked...”The pair ended up collaborating on a compilation release in 2010 called Lost & Found - Real R'n'B and Soul.and remain friends to this day... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP161 - Keb Darge - Scottish DJ and Music producer talks Lost & Found and DJ nights with Paul Weller...

In the dynamic world of music, a few trailblazers stand out, reshaping the industry with their audacious ideas and unshakeable passion. Andy Macdonald - the maverick behind the Go Discs and Independiente record labels - is undeniably one such luminary. With a knack for spotting raw talent and an unwavering commitment to artistic authenticity, Andy is one of the most successful UK independent music entrepreneurs of the modern era.In this World Exclusive Podcast conversation, we discover how his early interactions with the music industry at Stiff Records exposed him to the inner workings of record labels and the art of artist development. We learn how his journey in the business was kick-started through a strong passion for discovering and nurturing talent and a conversation that lit the fuse...And for the first time, Andy shares his experiences with Paul Weller. From signing him to Go Discs in 1992 and the release of their first single together "Uh Huh Oh Yeh!".This was the song that open up my world to Weller and what a journey it was in the 90s!.That debut solo album (via a Japanese record label) to Wild Wood and then the huge success of Stanley Road.We'll hear how they continued to work together through Heavy Soul and Heliocentric, despite the Polygram takeover of the label, and then onto a new venture - Independiente with the album's Days of Speed and Illumination.Founded in 1983, Go Discs quickly established itself as a breeding ground for innovative and groundbreaking artists. Andy's vision was simple yet profound: to provide a platform for artists to express their creativity without compromising their artistic integrity. This ethos resonated deeply with musicians and listeners alike, setting Go Discs Records apart from its contemporaries.Key signings included Billy Bragg, The Housemartins, The LAs, Madness, Beautiful South and of course, Paul Weller. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP160 - Andy Macdonald - Go-Discs - Independiente - Record Label Founder & Music Entrepreneur.

On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, I chat with Bob Manton and 'Just Jeff' Shadbolt from Purple Hearts. Formed in 1978, they were a mod-influenced band that blended elements of post-punk, new wave, and mod revival, creating a distinct and energetic sound that resonated with a wide audience beyond the confines of the mod scene.We talk about their discovery of The Jam as punk loving teenagers in Essex, to the creation of their first band The Sockets and an original punk rock opera inspired by a NME cartoon strip that poked fun of Paul, Bruce and Rick...That band turned into Purple Hearts and a more mod-influenced sound, which, thanks largely to The Jam, was beginning to capture public attention.The band even went on to support The Jam in 1981 - and Paul Weller even produced and played on a couple of songs for what would have been their second album...As you'll hear on the podcast, whilst they were often associated with the mod scene, Purple Hearts transcended categorization, leaving an indelible mark on the hearts of their audience that continues to beat strong over four decades later. Their unique blend of music and passion for mod culture set them apart, making them not just a mod band, but a band that truly loved and embodied the mod spirit.For the latest news on the band - head to their Facebook group here...The BandBob's distinct vocals and Jeff's skilled bass-guitar work formed the foundation of the band's sound with guitarist, Simon Stebbing and Gary Sparks on drums. Their partnership went beyond just musical collaboration – it was a meeting of minds that allowed Purple Hearts to craft songs that resonated deeply with their audience.The FansPurple Hearts' connection with their audience wasn't just ephemeral; it was deeply personal and lasting. The band's lyrics spoke to the realities of everyday life, love, and the struggles of youth, resonating with fans across generations. Their relatable songs weren't confined to a specific time or place, giving them a timeless appeal that continues to draw listeners in. This connection wasn't solely about the music; it was about sharing experiences and emotions that have universal relevance.The Weller ConnectionPurple Hearts signed to Chris Parry's Fiction Records label in 1979.You may remember Chris from Episode 76 as the man who signed The Jam to Polydor!.When that deal came to an end, Paul Weller produced a couple of demos for the band - also playing and providing backing vocals on Plane Crash and Concrete Mixer.In February 1981, Purple Hearts supported The Jam on tour dates at Sheerwater Youth Club Woking, Norwich University, Nottingham University and Crawley Leisure Centre. Bob and Jeff also mentioned Brighton, although I haven't managed to find a live date in 1981 for that in the archives.... do let me know people!Photo on the cover - Martyn Goddard (Podcast Guest 41) also took the shot for the cover of their single "My Life's a Jigsaw" on Safari Records.In 2021, Bob and Jeff created PH2 (Internationally known as Purple Hearts 2) and released a couple of new singles - Produced, Engineered and Mixed by Steve Cradock - 1974 / You Can't Tell Me Lies and Urban Soul / Livin' in the 70's.In a further link with The Jam , you can see Purple Hearts on the road in 2023 and 2024 supporting Bruce Foxton and Russell Hasting's From The Jam... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP159 - Purple Hearts - Bob Manton & Jeff Shadbolt

Part of the music industry for nearly 50 years, Kevin Metcalfe takes a break from enjoying his recent retirement to join me on this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast.Kevin is an industry legend. A sound mastering engineer with an impressive repertoire of all kinds of artists and all types of musical styles under his belt. This fella has played a key role on hundreds, if not thousands, of singles and album releases over the years including David Bowie, Adele, U2, Queen, ELO, Depeche Mode, Pulp, Simply Red, The Who, Brian Eno, Lee “Scratch” Perry, Mark Stewart, Adrian Sherwood and more…This is one of those episodes where we hear the connections to Paul Weller ( he mastered Illumination, Studio 150, As Is Now and Catch-Flame) but also plenty of tales from a career that started in 1973, as a 20 year old cutting discs with cassettes and 8-track at RCA…He soon moved to Delane Lea / CTS Studios at Wembley ( or The Music Centre as it came to be known) - where they scored the Bond movies and the world’s great reggae artists who’d pop in straight off the plane from Jamaica.It was at Utopia Studios from 1979 to 1983 that he really built his reputation as a sound and engineering mastering expert. Kevin worked with Roxy Music, Duran Duran, Ultravox and Japan. As the punk scene took off, Kevin worked with The Clash, Siouxsie Soux and more…Kevin got asked to join Virgin Records in 1982 (which later became part of EMI) and ended up staying for 15 years. He then went on to create his own company Soundmasters UK in 1997, which led to the work with Paul Weller, along with Adele, Damon Albarn, Can, Gary Clail (another personal favourite), Orbital, African Headcharge…We also have a few other PW connections with former podcast guests - Nick Heyward, Kathryn Williams and The Zombies!. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP158 - Kevin Metcalfe - 50 Years of Sound Mastering

On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, I am joined by songwriter, musician Chris Free. He was one half of the duo A Craze who were signed to Paul Weller’s Respond record label in the early 1980s.We chat about his love of punk including The Jam and The Clash and his first band The Users, to meeting Lucy Barron, forming A Craze and getting signed to the project.The band played on the Respond package tours, on line ups featuring Tracie Young, The Questions and Vaughan Toulouse. They were also on the bill for the BBC broadcast gig featuring The Style Council at the Paris Theatre in London.A Craze released one single, the Paul Weller produced Wearing Your Jumper and featured on the Respond sampler LP, Love the Reason with their song Keeping the Boys Amused.Chris and Lucy also wrote Give It Some Emotion which got to 24 in the UK charts and You Must Be Kidding which was the b-side to Soul's On Fire... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP157 - Chris Free - A Craze - Songwriter, Musician, Respond Records

On this episode of the podcast, we take a journey from The Jam to Paul Weller Solo via two super-fans... and a wonderful love story...David Rowe, and his partner, Jo White, have been to around 450 live shows and have some incredible stories and connections over the past 45 years... including joining the merchandise team for The Style Council and Paul Weller Solo!.David met Jo at school in St.Austell (double history) when she moved to Cornwall from Bounds Green, North London in 1978. They got the same bus to and from school (Jo to Pentewan, and David to Mevagissey). As you'll hear on the podcast, Jo introduced David to The Jam and they formed a great friendship through the music and live performances.Jo moved back to London in March 1984 when she started her nursing career in Paediatric Intensive Care. In April 1984, David started working as a Postman in St.Austell but left when he didn’t have enough annual leave to do the 2nd Style Council tour in October 1984!.David moved to London in 1985 and inspired by messages & campaigning from Paul Weller... he worked for The BUAV (The British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection) , Greenpeace UK and then Amnesty International, where he worked for 26 years....In 1985, David and Jo started doing ad-hoc merchandising work for Brian Hawkins, who had done The Jam’s merchandise before doing The Style Council.It started off just selling programmes after gigs and gradually they helped to set up and travelled with Brian, culminating in working on the early Paul Weller solo tours and the U.S. gigs in December 1991 and all Weller solo UK tours until the end of 1992 when Brian sadly lost the contract.Their only stipulation on doing the merch was that they clocked off at show time and came back out to sell after the encore!.David says "We’ve attended about 450 Shows (The Jam, The Style Council & Weller solo). Jo did a few more Jam shows than me. We did every Style Council UK tour date ( we both missed the Manchester Apollo gig on 12 October 1984 after the Wembley rail crash and I missed two more whilst doing The Communards ‘Red’ tour in 1987)." Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP156: David Rowe - Super-Fan turns Merch-Man...

On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, I am joined by another hugely talented individual in the world of music - Engineer, producer, mixer and editor, Fiona Cruickshank.One of the few people to feature on our series, who is involved in more music releases each year than Mr Weller ! She has been working in studios for over a decade now and is more in demand than ever - even getting a well deserved double win at the 2022 Music Producer Guild Awards for Recording Engineer of the Year and Breakthrough Producer of the Year.Her portfolio shows a breadth of creative approaches transcending film, music, and performance arts.Check out some of her incredible CV below... including Paul Weller's 2020 and 2021 album releases - On Sunset and Fat Pop (Volume 1).PaulWellerFanPodcast.com/episode-155-fiona-cruickshank Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP155: Fiona Cruickshank - Multi-award-winning Music Engineer, Producer, Mixer and Editor...

On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, recorded at the Here Comes The Weekend event in Woking, I chat to another huge talent to join this incredible musical journey. Steve Nichol.He’s a Multi-instrumentalist, Producer, Songwriter… who just happens to one of the founders of influential eighties Brit Soul flag bearers Loose Ends…It was a joy to hear his memories of a year spent with on keys and trumpet with The Jam…Live performances across the UK, Europe, US and Japan…Top of The Pops… and music promo videos…And on record with multiple tracks on the band’s final chart-topping album The Gift… and tracks on their final single releases…His time with the band began towards the end of 1981…The Jam had already established themselves as a pretty awesome force to be reckoned with – riding the crest of a (new) wave from the world of punk to become one of the biggest bands in Britain.Five Top 40 albums (Three of those hitting the Top Ten) and eleven Top 40 singles ( Five of those going Top Ten with a couple hitting the Number One spot!)….However, as the band evolved and sought to expand their musical boundaries, they recognized the need for a fresh infusion of talent. Enter Steve Nichol, a multi-talented musician with an undeniable flair for trumpet and keys.The Jam with a brass section… who’d have thought it?Together with Keith Thomas (who sadly passed away last year), Steve’s addition to the line up brought a new dimension to their sound, blending melodic brass and keyboard contributions seamlessly with the band’s energetic new wave spirit.Find out more in the shownotes to this podcast at paulwellerfanpodcast.com/episode-154-steve-nicholBuy a virtual coffee at paulwellerfanpodcast.com/store Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP154: Steve Nichol - The Jam 1981-82 (Trumpet & Keys) + Loose Ends and more...

It was a real honour to be asked to MC and interview guests at the recent Here Comes The Weekend event in Woking, and the first day was a 40th anniversary celebration of The Style Council.Yes, it really has been 4 whole decades since the reveal of a new venture from a fella called Paul Weller who had been in a pretty small band called The Jam… and an absolute wizard on the keys… Mick Talbot…The band went on release an incredibly diverse mix of singles - A sides , B sides - and albums that incorporated elements of pop, soul, jazz, classical and R&B into their sound.Their music was characterized by its sophisticated and polished production, catchy melodies, and socially conscious lyrics.Throughout the day, we had a great in-conversation session with Nicky Weller, live music from The Style Councillors and even an album playback of Café Bleu!On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, you can hear a recording of a special panel of guests chatting about their experiences in the band.Founding member - Mick Talbot, along with Honorary Councillors... Singer - Jaye Ella Ruth AKA Jaye Williamson, Brass musician and arranger… the man on trumpet and flugelhorn - Stewart Prosser and Bass Player Camelle Hinds - a man so good on the bass that Weller tapped him up again in the 90s… Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP153: Style Council Panel - Mick Talbot, Jaye Ella-Ruth, Stewart Prosser & Camelle Hinds...

On this episode of The Paul Weller Fan Podcast, I am joined by David Quantick - a writer whose work spans over 4 decades now. He joined NME as a staff writer in 1983.We dig in to stories of The Jam, The Style Council and Paul Weller Solo... and David's connections to the man and his music...He also just happens to be a hugely successful comedy writer and screenwriter for some of the most outstanding TV and Radio series over the past 30 years with credits for shows such as On the Hour, The Day Today, The Thick of It, Blue Jam, Harry Hill's TV Burp, Veep (for which he won an Emmy in 2015) and Avenue 5.Find out more at paulwellerfanpodcast.com/episode-152-david-quantick Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EP152 - David Quantick - Music Journalist NME, Critic, Comedy Writer, Author and more...

The World’s first Paul Weller Fan Podcast - For the fans by the fans.A radio broadcaster who gave up a career with one big regret. Never getting to interview his hero , the legendary British singer, songwriter & musician Paul Weller.This podcast exists purely to solve that issue. Welcome to Desperately Seeking Paul...If you want to support the podcast financially, you can buy me a virtual coffee via the link below (£3) ko-fi.com/paulwellerfanpodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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