Comedian Chey Bell shares about her fearless start in stand-up comedy, her take on accepting advice from others, and gets honest about where she maybe isn&apos;t as fearless as she one day hopes to be.  We also talk about this year&apos;s winner of the SF Comedy Competition, Ryan Goodcase,  and Chey shares her secret to manifesting her dreams.See Chey headlining live at the Comedy Edge in Oakland, October 16th as part of the Oakland Comedy Festival! Get tickets hereAbout The Guest, Chey Bell:Chey&apos;s comedy mirrors together life experiences and self-discovery, touching on everything from family, drugs, coworkers, sexuality to misspelled tattoos. Chey&apos;s energetic stage presence is engaging, silly, fearless and direct, just like her!Chey Bell has performed at The Comedy Store, Laff Factory, Punch Line, NY Comedy Club, Tommy T&apos;s and more. Chey has also featured for comedian Rachele Feinstein, R&B artist Eric Bellinger and has worked with Judah Friedlander and Fazon Love. Follow her on Instagram @cheybellcomedyYour Host:Before becoming a comedian, Holly Shaw spent a lifetime on stage, T.V. and film as an actor, professional dancer and later as a speaker, coach and hypnotherapist. She&apos;s authored two books: the Amazon bestseller, The Creative Formula, as well as the newly released book, Making Art In the Middle of Madness and she was a regular teacher at SAG/AFTRA&apos;s conservatories in San Francisco as well as Los Angeles. Her podcast, Performers & Creators Lab, was named One of the Most Outstanding Podcasts of 2019 by Databird Research. Through all of her offerings she has helped thousands of performing artists, some of them Emmy Award winning and Grammy nominated, overcome stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create the work they were born to make and become undeniably magnetic performers. Currently she lives with her son in Oakland, CA where she runs and performs in the live weekly comedy showcase on the waterfront, the Comedy Edge. To learn more, please visit www.performersandcreatorslab.comComposerDan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style. Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front,a Golden Gate award for the soundtrack to the documentary Divided Loyalties, and an Annie nomination for his work on three seasons of Cartoon Network’s the Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack. Visit bellowhead.com

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Finding Fearless with Chey Bell

Award winning comedian, Donald Lacy Jr. talks with Holly about the craft, his daughter&apos;s tragic death, and the wisdom of his mentors.  Come watch Don Lacy in action, headlining live on the Oakland waterfront at the Comedy Edge, July 3rd. Click here for tickets and information.More info about Love Life FoundationAbout the Guest:Donald E. Lacy, Jr. is a writer, director, actor, comedian, radio talk show host, and activist. In 2018 Steve Sturla and The Studio City Film Festival created the Donald E. Lacy, Jr. Social Justice Award, given to filmmakers whose films address social issues. On May 19th 2019, CNN aired The Redemption Project with Van Jones documenting Donald’s anti violence activism in Oakland and his journey to forgive the 1 man convicted of his daughter’s murder. In 2017 he received Legacy award from Theater Bay Area for his art and activism.  As a comedian he was inducted into the Bay Area Blues society Hall of Fame in 2013. He also appeared on BET’S Comic View and HBO’S Def Jam. A San Francisco State alumnus, with B. A. Degrees in Theater Arts, (with a film minor), and Black Studies.  His T.V./Film acting credits include: About Cherry with James Franco, The Other Barrio, NBC show Trauma, "Jack",  "Blood In, Blood Out", "L.A. Heat", "Hangin&apos; with Mr. Cooper" on ABC, and "Wolf" on CBS. Stage Credits include: ColorStruck at Theater for the New City in New York that premiered in 2019 and returned by popular demand in 2020. ColorStruck the last live theater show during the pandemic on March 15, 2020. In 2019 the World Premiere of Candlestick at ACT’s Costume Shop. Casa De Spirits written and directed by Roger Guenveur Smith in 2018.  Donald portrayed Wynton in The Royale at the Aurora Theater in 2017. In 2016 he appeared as Gabriel in August Wilson’s Fences at California Shakespeare Theater. A 25 city tour with The Miles Davis Experience for Columbia Records which he wrote. Follow Don on Instagram>Your Host:Before becoming a comedian, Holly Shaw spent a lifetime on stage, T.V. and film as an actor, professional dancer and later as a speaker, coach and hypnotherapist. She&apos;s authored two books: the Amazon bestseller, The Creative Formula, as well as the newly released book, Making Art In the Middle of Madness and she was a regular teacher at SAG/AFTRA&apos;s conservatories in San Francisco as well as Los Angeles. Her podcast, Performers & Creators Lab, was named One of the Most Outstanding Podcasts of 2019 by Databird Research. Through all of her offerings she has helped thousands of performing artists, some of them Emmy Award winning and Grammy nominated, overcome stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create the work they were born to make and become undeniably magnetic performers. Currently she lives with her son in Oakland, CA where she runs and performs in the live weekly comedy showcase on the waterfront, the Comedy Edge. To learn more, please visit www.performersandcreatorslab.comComposer:Dan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style. Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front,a Golden Gate award for the soundtrack to the documentary Divided Loyalties, and an Annie nomination for his work on thre

Comedic Lightness of Being with Don Lacy

Bay Area comedian, TammyTea Love talks about her journey on the way up, from her big break with Academy award winning actress, Mo&apos;Nique to her work with the Hella Funny crew.  See Tammy live! at the Comedy Edge on May 29th!  Click here for tickets.About the GuestTammyTea Love has performed at Cobbs comedy club, PunchlineSf, Flappers Comedy Club, SF Sketchfest and many others. Also Tammy is a two time Comedy Oakland Champion, and on most nights and weekends she works the stage. Follow her on Instagram @TammyTeaLoveYour HostHolly Shaw, CHT is a performance coach, creativity researcher and stand up comedian and has spent a lifetime in film, T.V. and on professional stages all over the world as an actor, dancer, and director. She has helped hundreds of artists, from Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists to world class choreographers overcome their anxiety, stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create original work and totally crush it on stage again and again without feeling like they&apos;re selling out or losing their sanity. In 2016, Shaw wrote and published, The Creative Formula   which has become an Amazon bestseller and in 2020 published her second book, Making Art In The Middle of Madnesswhich has become a #1 New Release. The Performers & Creators Lab podcast was named one of 2019&apos;s most outstanding podcasts by Databird Research. She teaches regularly at the Screen Actors Guild Conservatories in L.A. and SF and produces The Comedy Edge showcase in Oakland, CA where she lives with her son. Follow her on Instagram to stay up to date:  @hollyshawspritelyComposerDan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style. Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front,a Golden Gate award for the soundtrack to the documentary Divided Loyalties, and an Annie nomination for his work on three seasons of Cartoon Network’s the Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack. Visit bellowhead.com

Respect On the Way Up with Tammy Tea Love

Amy Howerska is an award winning comedian and comedy writer who has found her stride on stage, but it wasn&apos;t always so easy. Listen as she shares stories of the times when audiences hated her and explains why bombing is glorious and how to get something produced on T.V.  Come and see Amy headlining live at The Comedy Edge on the Oakland waterfront, May 1st - click here to get tickets!Our Guest: Amy HowerskaAmy Howerska is an award winning stand-up comedian and writer.  She has established herself as a unusual and idiosyncratic voice on the UK comedy circuit. She works internationally at festivals in Europe and Australia as well as writing extensively for BBC Radio 4 and BBC Radio Wales. Her first television pilot through BBC writers room The Outsiders aired on BBC 2 on the 10th of October 2018. In 2020 she signed on with Rockerdale studios to develop her own sitcom Drop Zone Kidz. Find out more at www.AmyHowerska.com Your HostHolly Shaw, CHT is a performance coach, creativity researcher and stand up comedian and has spent a lifetime in film, T.V. and on professional stages all over the world as an actor, dancer, and director. She has helped hundreds of artists, from Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists to world class choreographers overcome their anxiety, stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create original work and totally crush it on stage again and again without feeling like they&apos;re selling out or losing their sanity. In 2016, Shaw wrote and published, The Creative Formula   which has become an Amazon bestseller and in 2020 published her second book, Making Art In The Middle of Madnesswhich has become a #1 New Release. The Performers & Creators Lab podcast was named one of 2019&apos;s most outstanding podcasts by Databird Research. She teaches regularly at the Screen Actors Guild Conservatories in L.A. and SF and produces The Comedy Edge showcase in Oakland, CA where she lives with her son. Follow her on Instagram to stay up to date:  @hollyshawspritelyComposerDan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style. Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front,a Golden Gate award for the soundtrack to the documentary Divided Loyalties, and an Annie nomination for his work on three seasons of Cartoon Network’s the Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack. Visit bellowhead.com

Surviving Smash or Bomb Comedy with Amy Howerska

Comedian Jerry Law shares his wealth of knowledge about how to make an audience laugh with you and love you. In this intimate convo, he talks about his new relationship, growing up in East Oakland and what it takes to turn “awkward” and painful into gold on stage. See him headlining at The Comedy Edge in Oakland April 3rd!Our Guest: Jerry LawGrowing up in East Oakland, the oldest of 9 kids, Jerry Law is a comedian who grew up on Def Comedy Jam and Martin Lawrence and artists that today he has won the privilege of working with.  He’s worked with Mario Hodge and Damon Wayans among other great comedians. Follow him on Instagram to stay up to date: @jerrylaw2rawYour HostHolly Shaw, CHT is a performance coach, creativity researcher and stand up comedian and has spent a lifetime in film, T.V. and on professional stages all over the world as an actor, dancer, and director. She has helped hundreds of artists, from Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists to world class choreographers overcome their anxiety, stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create original work and totally crush it on stage again and again without feeling like they&apos;re selling out or losing their sanity. In 2016, Shaw wrote and published, The Creative Formula   which has become an Amazon bestseller and in 2020 published her second book, Making Art In The Middle of Madnesswhich has become a #1 New Release. The Performers & Creators Lab podcast was named one of 2019&apos;s most outstanding podcasts by Databird Research. She teaches regularly at the Screen Actors Guild Conservatories in L.A. and SF and produces The Comedy Edge showcase in Oakland, CA where she lives with her son. Follow her on Instagram to stay up to date:  @hollyshawspritelyComposerDan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style. Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front,a Golden Gate award for the soundtrack to the documentary Divided Loyalties, and an Annie nomination for his work on three seasons of Cartoon Network’s the Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack. Visit bellowhead.com​​

Cracking the Comedy Code with Jerry Law

When Jami Tennille first started acting later in life she felt like she was really struggling to find the light switch in a room with no lights. Once she figured it out and started working, she had the drive to be that network, that support system, an insider to the industry access and create the community that she wished she&apos;d had when she first started. As a result, she created Actors Playbook.  Listen to her story and how she went from a wanna be actor to a working actor and entrepreneur.  Music by Dan Cantrell.Today&apos;s Guest: Jami Tennille is an actor, mentor, screenwriter, and filmmaker with award-winning work, including the academy award winner, “Manchester By The Sea.” Jami is also the founder of ActorPlaybook, an online platform providing actors with classes, workshops and industry resources. She strives to cultivate a community of actors who feel 110% supported in their craft. Learn more about her work here or visit her page on IMDB.The Host: Holly Shaw, CHT is a performance coach, creativity researcher and stand up comedian and has spent a lifetime in film, T.V. and on professional stages all over the world as an actor, dancer, and director. She has helped hundreds of artists, from Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists to world class choreographers overcome their anxiety, stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create original work and totally crush it on stage again and again without feeling like they&apos;re selling out or losing their sanity. In 2016, Shaw wrote and published, The Creative Formula   which has become an Amazon bestseller and in 2020 published her second book, Making Art In The Middle of Madnesswhich has become a #1 New Release. The Performers & Creators Lab podcast was named one of 2019&apos;s most outstanding podcasts by Databird Research. She teaches regularly at the Screen Actors Guild Conservatories in L.A. and SF and produces The Comedy Edge showcase in Oakland, CA where she lives with her son. Follow her on Instagram to stay up to date:  @hollyshawspritely or visit www.PerformersandCreatorsLab.com to find out about her services and get access to free resources and creative assessments.The Composer: Dan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style.Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front.  Learn more at bellowhead.com

Take Control of Your Art with Actor, Jami Tennille

Listen to this guided meditation and exercise to get yourself in the mood to practice. In just a few minutes you&apos;ll feel aligned and excited to begin doing what you need to do in order to get better at the thing you love.  It feels so good to feel ready!Want more meditations like this?  Visit performersandcreatorslab.com to find the Meditations for Actors Series as well as other interviews, stories, tips, and hypnosis recordings for all types of artists.Holly Shaw is a hypnotherapist, performance coach, creativity researcher and has spent a lifetime in film, T.V. and on professional stages all over the world as an actor, dancer, and director and stand-up comedian. She has helped hundreds of artists, from Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists to world class choreographers overcome their anxiety, stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create original work and totally crush it on stage again and again without feeling like they&apos;re selling out or losing their sanity.  In 2016, Shaw wrote and published, The Creative Formula   which has become an Amazon bestseller and in 2020 published her second book, Making Art In The Middle of Madness   which has become a #1 New Release. The Performers & Creators Lab podcast was named one of 2019&apos;s most outstanding podcasts by Databird Research. Follow her on Instagram to stay up to date:  @hollyshawspritely or visit www.PerformersandCreatorsLab.com to get more free resourcesThe Composer: Dan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style.Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front.  Learn more at bellowhead.com

Before You Practice: ACTIVATE YOUR ENERGY

Are you secretly longing for someone to tell you how wonderful you are on this Valentine&apos;s Day?  Look no further than this intimate love letter whispered straight to you heart made just for you . . . for all of you. Inspired by Holly&apos;s playful Instagram series of #listeningfaces. Follow her to see more on Instagram @hollyshawspritelyHolly Shaw, Certified Hypnotherapist, is a performance coach, creativity researcher and stand up comedian and has spent a lifetime in film, T.V. and on professional stages all over the world as an actor, dancer, and director. She has helped hundreds of artists, from Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists to world class choreographers overcome their anxiety, stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create original work and totally crush it on stage again and again without feeling like they&apos;re selling out or losing their sanity.  In 2016, Shaw wrote and published, The Creative Formula   which has become an Amazon bestseller and in 2020 published her second book, Making Art In The Middle of Madness which has become a #1 New Release. The Performers & Creators Lab podcast was named one of 2019&apos;s most outstanding podcasts by Databird Research. Follow her on Instagram to stay up to date:  @hollyshawspritelyThe Composer: Dan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style.Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front.  Learn more at bellowhead.com

A Love Letter To You On Valentine's Day

Comedian Marcus Howard interviews best-selling author, Holly Shaw talking about:what is a "shadow self"?why vulnerability is so freakin&apos; hardyour artistic potential beyond the prevalent poverty mindsetHolly&apos;s new book, Making Art In The Middle of MadnessInterested in learning more?  Take the free assessment - Meet Your Shadow Archetype - on www.performersandcreatorslab.comOr just go and get the book already>>Holly Shaw, Author Shaw is a hypnotherapist, performance coach, creativity researcher and stand up comedian and has spent a lifetime in film, T.V. and on professional stages all over the world as an actor, dancer, and director. She has helped hundreds of artists, from Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists to world class choreographers overcome their anxiety, stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create original work and totally crush it on stage again and again without feeling like they&apos;re selling out or losing their sanity.  In 2016, Shaw wrote and published, The Creative Formula   which has become an Amazon bestseller and in 2020 published her second book, Making Art In The Middle of Madness which has become a #1 New Release. The Performers & Creators Lab podcast was named one of 2019&apos;s most outstanding podcasts by Databird Research. Follow her on Instagram to stay up to date:  @hollyshawspritelyGuest Host, Marcus HowardMarcus Howard is a rising comedian hailing from the San Francisco Bay Area. His clever and witty stand up touches on relevant topics & navigating life as a black millennial while poking fun at the ridiculous side of wokeness. Marcus&apos; fans have described him as " black, but not scary black" and "pleasantly surprised that he was good". Marcus can be seen performing regularly at The Set Up Comedy Club in San Francisco&apos;s pristine Tenderloin.  Follow him on Instagram: @MarcusHoweirdThe Composer: Dan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style.Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front.  Learn more at bellowhead.com

The Shadow of The Self: Making Art In the Middle of Madness

Feeling at a loss when it comes to promoting yourself on social media?  Hear from online presence expert, Italina Kirknis, as she talks to Holly about attraction based marketing, nuances in sharing about your life online, and how not to sound like a marketing robot.Music by Dan Cantrell.Click here to find out more about Italina&apos;s upcoming events>>Other Episodes You May Like:​E27  Social Media Hustle: Worth It or A Waste? with Suzanna YadaE22  10 Tips for Writing A Stand-Out Artist&apos;s Bio with Holly ShawOr  Listen to The Entire Promote Yourself Playlist>>Our Guest:  Italina Kirknis, Online Presence ExpertAs an Online Presence Expert & Speaker, Italina helps you upgrade your presence online through LinkedIn, Facebook, and Instagram. Italina and her team of Social Media Managers, help you gain more visibility online, driving a steady stream of clients to your business. You should also know that Italina is trained as an attorney; she has a Juris Doctorate Degree and a legal background. However, like many recovering attorneys, Italina is now practicing her passion, Online Branding & Marketing. Since 2012, her business has been the vehicle for her personal and spiritual growth, while she creates value for each of her clients. Find Italina on Facebook - LinkedIn - or on InstagramThe Host:  Holly Shaw, CHT is a performance coach, creativity researcher and stand up comedian and has spent a lifetime in film, T.V. and on professional stages all over the world as an actor, dancer, and director. She has helped hundreds of artists, from Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists to world class choreographers overcome their anxiety, stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create original work and totally crush it on stage again and again without feeling like they&apos;re selling out or losing their sanity.  In 2016, Shaw wrote and published, The Creative Formula   which has become an Amazon bestseller and in 2020 published her second book, Making Art In The Middle of Madness which has become a #1 New Release. The Performers & Creators Lab podcast was named one of 2019&apos;s most outstanding podcasts by Databird Research. Follow her on Instagram to stay up to date:  @hollyshawspritelyThe Composer: Dan Cantrell is an Emmy award winning composer and multi-instrumentalist known for his innovative film scoring approach, and his virtuosic abilities on the accordion, piano and musical saw. “Hauntingly beautiful…quirky and energetic” says the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  His extensive scoring catalogue spans a wide range of emotion and style.Dan’s compositions for film and television have earned him numerous awards including an Emmy Award for KQED’s Home-Front.  Learn more at bellowhead.com

Social Media Sensibility: How to Be Yourself Online and Avoid Sounding Like A Marketing Robot

What does being on a turbulent airplane got to do with making art in the middle of madness? Listen to find out.Click here to find out more about Holly&apos;s new book: Making Art In The Middle of Madness>>About Your HostHolly Shaw, Certified Hypnotherapist  is a performance coach, creativity researcher and stand up comedian.  Growing up in Indianapolis, IN she convinced her parents she needed to go to Chicago to get her own agent and has spent a lifetime in film, T.V. and on professional stages all over the world as an actor, dancer, and director.Spending the last 20 years in the San Francisco Bay Area, making art and learning the art of healing, she now works as a Creativity Coach and a Certified Hypnotherapist and has helped hundreds of artists, from Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists to world class choreographers overcome their anxiety, stage fright, impostor syndrome, and creative blocks so that they can create original work and totally crush it onstage again and again without feeling like they&apos;re selling out or losing their sanity.In 2016, Shaw wrote and released her book, The Creative Formula: Compose, Choreograph, and Capture Your Masterpiece  which has become an Amazon bestseller.  In 2018 she launched the Performers & Creators Lab podcast which was named one of 2019&apos;s most outstanding podcasts by Databird Research. She teaches regularly at the SAG/AFTRA offices in L.A. and SF and runs creative laboratory workshops like the Comedy Lab Open Mic and is the producer of The Comedy Edge live stand-up show on the waterfront in Oakland where she lives. Follow her on Instagram to stay up to date: @hollyshawspritelyGet her latest book, Making Art In the Middle of Madness now>>

Calm Person On the Airplane

An entrancing look at the world of performance and creativity. Learn about the neuroscience of the “it” factor, listen to artists who channel ghosts to create their work, and hear firsthand from a booking agent about how to promote yourself as an artist. Host, Holly Shaw, a hypnotherapist and performance coach to Emmy award winning and Grammy nominated artists, includes spotlight coaching sessions, the "open channel game" where guests go into trance and answer questions, and wildly far-out conversations with musicians, actors, choreographers, and influencers on this podcast. As one reviewer says, “Holly is amazing at pulling deep wisdom out of her interviewees. This podcast is a must listen!"

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