Sacred Conversations on Work Episode 27 In Episode 27, Carol continues her conversation with Sara Martin, COO and Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Wellness Council of America, also known as WELCOA. Sara’s purpose is helping people fulfill their highest potential in work and life through corporate health promotion. In Part 2 of this two-part interview, you’ll learn how to get started with planning and implementing a wellness program, one company’s example of building wellness into the organization’s DNA, and what’s required to be the employer of choice with millennials. You’ll also hear Sara’s best and worst work experiences, and simple yet profound ways to lead authentically. Sara has launched award winning wellness programs, created new wellness products, and engineered work environments to create cultures of health across multiple industries.  She has been a session and keynote speaker at a variety of community and national events including National Health Enhancement Research Organization (HERO) Conference, the Art and Science of Health Promotion Conference, and the National WELCOA Training Summit.  She sits on the Johns Hopkins Mental Health in the Workplace Advisory Council and the CDC Workplace Health Resource Center Steering Committee.  Sara’s background includes corporate training, organizational development, and health promotion management. Before joining WELCOA, Sara managed the award-winning Well@Work employee wellness program for the 5,000 employees of BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee and served as a Health Management Consultant for BlueCross. Sara received her BA in Psychology from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and her M.S. in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.    For more info about Sara’s work, go to welcoa.org. To contact Sara directly, please email her at srauch@welcoa.org or find her on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/sararauch. ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sara Martin PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

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Sara Martin (Episode 27)

  In Episode 27, Carol continues her conversation with Sara Martin, COO and Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Wellness Council of America, also known as WELCOA. Sara’s purpose is helping people fulfill their highest potential in work and life through corporate health promotion. In Part 2 of this two-part interview, you’ll learn how to get started with planning and implementing a wellness program, one company’s example of building wellness into the organization’s DNA, and what’s required to be the employer of choice with millennials. You’ll also hear Sara’s best and worst work experiences, and simple yet profound ways to lead authentically. Sara has launched award winning wellness programs, created new wellness products, and engineered work environments to create cultures of health across multiple industries.  She has been a session and keynote speaker at a variety of community and national events including National Health Enhancement Research Organization (HERO) Conference, the Art and Science of Health Promotion Conference, and the National WELCOA Training Summit.  She sits on the Johns Hopkins Mental Health in the Workplace Advisory Council and the CDC Workplace Health Resource Center Steering Committee.  Sara’s background includes corporate training, organizational development, and health promotion management. Before joining WELCOA, Sara managed the award-winning Well@Work employee wellness program for the 5,000 employees of BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee and served as a Health Management Consultant for BlueCross. Sara received her BA in Psychology from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and her M.S. in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.    For more info about Sara’s work, go to welcoa.org. To contact Sara directly, please email her at srauch@welcoa.org or find her on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/sararauch. ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sara Martin PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Teaser for Episode 27

Sacred Conversation On Work Episode 26 In Episode 26, Carol talks with Sara Martin, COO and Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Wellness Council of America, also known as WELCOA. Sara’s purpose is helping people fulfill their highest potential in work and life through corporate health promotion. In Part 1 of this two-part interview, you’ll hear Sara’s personal story and how it led her to conclude that traditional wellness at work programs are missing the mark. The things we don’t want to talk about are the things that really impact wellness. More than lowering medical costs and addressing physical needs, Sara outlines the elements of what a real wellness program should cover, to help employees flourish on many levels.  Sara connects these elements with tangible business metrics. You’ll also hear about the role of emotions in the workplace, why work is sacred, and the data on wellness and business outcomes. Sara has launched award winning wellness programs, created new wellness products, and engineered work environments to create cultures of health across multiple industries.  She has been a session and keynote speaker at a variety of community and national events including National Health Enhancement Research Organization (HERO) Conference, the Art and Science of Health Promotion Conference, and the National WELCOA Training Summit.  She sits on the Johns Hopkins Mental Health in the Workplace Advisory Council and the CDC Workplace Health Resource Center Steering Committee.  Sara’s background includes corporate training, organizational development, and health promotion management. Before joining WELCOA, Sara managed the award-winning Well@Work employee wellness program for the 5,000 employees of BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee and served as a Health Management Consultant for BlueCross. Sara received her BA in Psychology from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and her M.S. in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.  For more info about Sara’s work, go to welcoa.org. To contact Sara directly, please email her at srauch@welcoa.org or find her on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/sararauch. ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sara Martin PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sara Martin (Episode 26)

  In Episode 26, Carol talks with Sara Martin, COO and Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Wellness Council of America, also known as WELCOA. Sara’s purpose is helping people fulfill their highest potential in work and life through corporate health promotion. In Part 1 of this two-part interview, you’ll hear Sara’s personal story and how it led her to conclude that traditional wellness at work programs are missing the mark. The things we don’t want to talk about are the things that really impact wellness. More than lowering medical costs and addressing physical needs, Sara outlines the elements of what a real wellness program should cover, to help employees flourish on many levels.  Sara connects these elements with tangible business metrics. You’ll also hear about the role of emotions in the workplace, why work is sacred, and the data on wellness and business outcomes. Sara has launched award winning wellness programs, created new wellness products, and engineered work environments to create cultures of health across multiple industries.  She has been a session and keynote speaker at a variety of community and national events including National Health Enhancement Research Organization (HERO) Conference, the Art and Science of Health Promotion Conference, and the National WELCOA Training Summit.  She sits on the Johns Hopkins Mental Health in the Workplace Advisory Council and the CDC Workplace Health Resource Center Steering Committee.  Sara’s background includes corporate training, organizational development, and health promotion management. Before joining WELCOA, Sara managed the award-winning Well@Work employee wellness program for the 5,000 employees of BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee and served as a Health Management Consultant for BlueCross. Sara received her BA in Psychology from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and her M.S. in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.  For more info about Sara’s work, go to welcoa.org. To contact Sara directly, please email her at srauch@welcoa.org or find her on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/sararauch. ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sara Martin PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Teaser for Episode 26

Sacred Conversation On Work Episode 25 This conversation is jam-packed with great insights and advice from one of the top business thinkers in the world. In Episode 25, Carol talks with Daniel Pink, author of several provocative, bestselling books about business, work, and behavior, including When: The Scientific Secrets of Perfect Timing, A Whole New Mind, Drive, and To Sell is Human.  For the last six years, London-based Thinkers 50 named Daniel Pink, alongside Michael Porter and Clayton Christensen, as one of the top 15 business thinkers in the world. In this interview, Dan reflects on his early analysis of where work was headed nearly 20 years ago (with his first book on the rise of freelancers). He points out the unseen forces that have shaped the work environment that we have today—one where social media fuels unhealthy comparison, where top performers have more options outside of traditional forms of work, and where retirement doesn’t come at 65 years of age. This leads to a discussion of how workplaces need to adapt.   You’ll also hear about the importance of acknowledging emotions in the workplace, how the younger generation is finding community in new places, one of the biggest mistakes Millennials make in pursuing their first job, Dan’s best and worst work experiences, and what makes work sacred.  We end the conversation with Dan’s top tip for having a meaningful and successful career. Dan Pink’s books have won multiple awards, have been translated into 39 languages, and have sold three million copies worldwide.  He has been a contributing editor at Fast Company and Wired. His articles and essays have also appeared in The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, The New Republic, and Slate. In 2007, he was a Japan Society Media fellow in Tokyo, where he studied the country’s massive comic industry. Before venturing out on his own 20 years ago, Dan worked in several positions in politics and government, including serving from 1995 to 1997 as chief speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore. He received a BA from Northwestern University and a JD from Yale Law School. Pink and his wife live in Washington, DC. They have three children — two college students and a high school student.   For more information on Dan Pink please visit his website: www.danpink.com   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Daniel Pink PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Dan Pink (Episode 25)

  This conversation is jam-packed with great insights and advice from one of the top business thinkers in the world. In Episode 25, Carol talks with Daniel Pink, author of several provocative, bestselling books about business, work, and behavior, including When: The Scientific Secrets of Perfect Timing, A Whole New Mind, Drive, and To Sell is Human.  For the last six years, London-based Thinkers 50 named Daniel Pink, alongside Michael Porter and Clayton Christensen, as one of the top 15 business thinkers in the world. In this interview, Dan reflects on his early analysis of where work was headed nearly 20 years ago (with his first book on the rise of freelancers). He points out the unseen forces that have shaped the work environment that we have today—one where social media fuels unhealthy comparison, where top performers have more options outside of traditional forms of work, and where retirement doesn’t come at 65 years of age. This leads to a discussion of how workplaces need to adapt.   You’ll also hear about the importance of acknowledging emotions in the workplace, how the younger generation is finding community in new places, one of the biggest mistakes Millennials make in pursuing their first job, Dan’s best and worst work experiences, and what makes work sacred.  We end the conversation with Dan’s top tip for having a meaningful and successful career. Dan Pink’s books have won multiple awards, have been translated into 39 languages, and have sold three million copies worldwide.  He has been a contributing editor at Fast Company and Wired. His articles and essays have also appeared in The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, The New Republic, and Slate. In 2007, he was a Japan Society Media fellow in Tokyo, where he studied the country’s massive comic industry. Before venturing out on his own 20 years ago, Dan worked in several positions in politics and government, including serving from 1995 to 1997 as chief speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore. He received a BA from Northwestern University and a JD from Yale Law School. Pink and his wife live in Washington, DC. They have three children — two college students and a high school student.   For more information on Dan Pink please visit his website: www.danpink.com   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Daniel pink PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Teaser for Episode 25

Sacred Conversations On WorkEpisode 24 In Episode 24, Carol talks with Sean Harvey, a writer, speaker, and consultant to a new narrative around creating a healthier balance of the integrated masculine and feminine to transform people, cultures, and systems. He is the former head of Personal Transformation and Wellbeing for EILEEN FISHER. What would workplaces look like if women ruled the world? You’ll get an inside look, as Carol and Sean discuss his past work at EILEEN FISHER, an employee-owned company consisting of 83% women and 17% men. It’s rare that a company says on your first day of work, “You don’t need to prove yourself. Rather, we want you to bring all of yourself and your humanity to work.” But that’s exactly how Sean started his first day. You’ll also hear how Sean’s facilitation of deep transformational work for employees at EILEN FISHER led to his own transformation, and the next chapter of his work with The Compassion Masculinity Project. We wrap up by talking about the value of using both head and heart, masculine and feminine energies in the workplace. Sean Harvey is the Chief Compassion Officer & Founder of Symponia Studios and The Compassionate Masculinity Project.  His work in personal, organizational, and culture transformation is informed by 20 years of talent and organization development consulting experience and a decade of college teaching experience at Cornell, NYU, and Baruch College CUNY in the areas Organizational Behavior and Change. He works specifically with men to find their authentic voice, connect more deeply with themselves and the world, and live a life of purpose.  For more information on Sean please visit his website: symponiastudios.com   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sean Harvey PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier  

Sean Harvey (Episode 24)

In Episode 24, Carol talks with Sean Harvey, a writer, speaker, and consultant to a new narrative around creating a healthier balance of the integrated masculine and feminine to transform people, cultures, and systems. He is the former head of Personal Transformation and Wellbeing for EILEEN FISHER. What would workplaces look like if women ruled the world? You’ll get an inside look, as Carol and Sean discuss his past work at EILEEN FISHER, an employee-owned company consisting of 83% women and 17% men. It’s rare that a company says on your first day of work, “You don’t need to prove yourself. Rather, we want you to bring all of yourself and your humanity to work.” But that’s exactly how Sean started his first day. You’ll also hear how Sean’s facilitation of deep transformational work for employees at EILEEN FISHER led to his own transformation, and the next chapter of his work with The Compassion Masculinity Project. We wrap up by talking about the value of using both head and heart, masculine and feminine energies in the workplace. Sean Harvey is the Chief Compassion Officer & Founder of Symponia Studios and The Compassionate Masculinity Project.  His work in personal, organizational, and culture transformation is informed by 20 years of talent and organization development consulting experience and a decade of college teaching experience at Cornell, NYU, and Baruch College CUNY in the areas Organizational Behavior and Change. He works specifically with men to find their authentic voice, connect more deeply with themselves and the world, and live a life of purpose.  For more information on Sean please visit his website: symponiastudios.com   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Sean Harvey PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier  

Teaser for Episode 24

Sacred Conversation On Work Episode 23 In Episode 23, Carol talks with Ingrid Fetell Lee, a designer and author whose groundbreaking work reveals the hidden influence of our surroundings on our emotions and wellbeing. The author of Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness, and founder of the website, The Aesthetics of Joy, Ingrid empowers people to find more joy in life and work through design. People often think of joy as frivolous or childish. In this conversation, you’ll hear how it is anything but—and how it our natural way of thriving life’s ups and downs. Listen in as Carol and Ingrid explore how the physical world connects to the emotional one. How does joy connect with the physical world? You’ll learn the things that universally spark joy, across cultures and individuals, how joy impacts productivity in the workplace, and the simple and affordable ways to create a sense of wellbeing by tweaking one’s environment. Ingrid gives three practical tips for a more joyful workplace. We wrap up with thoughts on giving yourself permission and being brave. Ingrid Fetell Lee is a former design director at IDEO. Her immensely popular TED talk “Where Joy Hides and How to Find it” has been viewed more than 17 million times. Ingrid has been featured as an expert on design and joy by outlets such as The New York Times, Wired, Psychology Today, and Fast Company. She has over twelve years of experience in design and branding, having led design programs for Target, Condé Nast, Eileen Fisher, American Express, Kate Spade, Diageo, Pepsico, and the US government, among others. She was a founding faculty member in the Products of Design program at the School of Visual Arts in New York City. Ingrid holds a Master’s in Industrial Design from Pratt Institute and a Bachelor’s in English and Creative Writing from Princeton University. She loves pancakes, polka dots, and rainbow sprinkles, and has an extensive repertoire of happy dances for any occasion. For more information on Ingrid please visit her website: aestheticsofjoy.com Find her on Instagram: @aestheticsofjoy   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Ingrid Fetell Lee, aestheticsofjoy.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Ingrid Fetell Lee (Episode 23)

  In Episode 23, Carol talks with Ingrid Fetell Lee, a designer and author whose groundbreaking work reveals the hidden influence of our surroundings on our emotions and wellbeing. The author of Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness, and founder of the website, The Aesthetics of Joy, Ingrid empowers people to find more joy in life and work through design. People often think of joy as frivolous or childish. In this conversation, you’ll hear how it is anything but—and how it our natural way of thriving life’s ups and downs. Listen in as Carol and Ingrid explore how the physical world connects to the emotional one. How does joy connect with the physical world? You’ll learn the things that universally spark joy, across cultures and individuals, how joy impacts productivity in the workplace, and the simple and affordable ways to create a sense of wellbeing by tweaking one’s environment. Ingrid gives three practical tips for a more joyful workplace. We wrap up with thoughts on giving yourself permission and being brave. Ingrid Fetell Lee is a former design director at IDEO. Her immensely popular TED talk “Where Joy Hides and How to Find it” has been viewed more than 17 million times. Ingrid has been featured as an expert on design and joy by outlets such as The New York Times, Wired, Psychology Today, and Fast Company. She has over twelve years of experience in design and branding, having led design programs for Target, Condé Nast, Eileen Fisher, American Express, Kate Spade, Diageo, Pepsico, and the US government, among others. She was a founding faculty member in the Products of Design program at the School of Visual Arts in New York City. Ingrid holds a Master’s in Industrial Design from Pratt Institute and a Bachelor’s in English and Creative Writing from Princeton University. She loves pancakes, polka dots, and rainbow sprinkles, and has an extensive repertoire of happy dances for any occasion. For more information on Ingrid please visit her website: aestheticsofjoy.com Find her on Instagram: @aestheticsofjoy   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Ingrid Fetell Lee, aestheticsofjoy.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Teaser for Episode 23

Sacred Conversation About Work Episode 22 In Episode 22, Carol continues her talk with Judi Neal, a recognized expert and academic on spirituality in the workplace. Judi speaks and consults internationally. Clients include Pfizer and GE, as well as non-profits. In this second part of a two-part interview, you’ll learn about the power of tapping into a knowing that goes beyond the rational, how Johnson and Johnson creates sacred space at their headquarters, and why Aetna is such a big proponent of mindfulness at work. You’ll also hear Judi’s take on the long-term prognosis for businesses as a place for human beings to thrive as well as tips for getting started on bringing spirituality into the workplace. We wrap up with Judi’s reflections on a life so much bigger than she could have ever imagined, with miracle after miracle, and a delightful personal exchange between Carol and Judi. Judi Neal is the Chairman of Edgewalkers International, the retired Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas and Professor Emeritus at the University of New Haven. Widely published, her books include Creating Enlightened Organizations: Four Gateways to Spirit at Work, Edgewalkers: People and Organizations that Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground, and The Spirit of Project Management. She is the editor of The Handbook for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. Judi has been active in creating communities that support spirituality in the workplace, as the founder of The International Center for Spirit at Work, and the International Spirit at Work Awards, and co-founder of the Management, Spirituality and Religion Interest Group at the Academy of Management. She is also co-founder of the Journal of Management, Spirituality, and Religion and on the Board of Directors of the International Association of Management, Spirituality and Religion. Judi received her Ph.D. from Yale in Organizational Behavior and lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas. For more information on Judi please visit her website: www.edgewalkers.org Or email her: judi@edgewalkers.org ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Judi Neal PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier  

Judi Neal (Episode 22)

In Episode 22, Carol continues her talk with Judi Neal, a recognized expert and academic on spirituality in the workplace. Judi speaks and consults internationally. Clients include Pfizer and GE, as well as non-profits. In this second part of a two-part interview, you’ll learn about the power of tapping into a knowing that goes beyond the rational, how Johnson and Johnson creates sacred space at their headquarters, and why Aetna is such a big proponent of mindfulness at work. You’ll also hear Judi’s take on the long-term prognosis for businesses as a place for human beings to thrive as well as tips for getting started on bringing spirituality into the workplace. We wrap up with Judi’s reflections on a life so much bigger than she could have ever imagined, with miracle after miracle, and a delightful personal exchange between Carol and Judi. Judi Neal is the Chairman of Edgewalkers International, the retired Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas and Professor Emeritus at the University of New Haven. Widely published, her books include Creating Enlightened Organizations: Four Gateways to Spirit at Work, Edgewalkers: People and Organizations that Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground, and The Spirit of Project Management. She is the editor of The Handbook for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. Judi has been active in creating communities that support spirituality in the workplace, as the founder of The International Center for Spirit at Work, and the International Spirit at Work Awards, and co-founder of the Management, Spirituality and Religion Interest Group at the Academy of Management. She is also co-founder of the Journal of Management, Spirituality, and Religion and on the Board of Directors of the International Association of Management, Spirituality and Religion. Judi received her Ph.D. from Yale in Organizational Behavior and lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas.   For more information on Judi please visit her website: www.edgewalkers.org Or email her: judi@edgewalkers.org ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Judi Neal PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Teaser for Episode 22

Sacred Conversation on Work Episode 21 In Episode 21, Carol talks with Judi Neal, PhD, a recognized expert and academic on spirituality in the workplace. Judi speaks and consults internationally. Clients include Pfizer, GE, Unilever, General Dynamics, Hewlett-Packard and others. In this first part of a two-part interview, you’ll hear about Judi’s journey from whistle blower to management professor, the bottom line benefits that are created when employees become connected to something greater than themselves and to others, and the power of aligning individual values and organizational values. Judi and Carol also talk about the inner work of the leader, a “crisis of awe”, and how silence plays a role in better decisions, individually and collectively. The first part of this interview concludes with a discussion on powerful, but often overlooked skills of the effective leader. Judi Neal is the Chairman of Edgewalkers International, the retired Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas and Professor Emeritus at the University of New Haven. Widely published, her books include Creating Enlightened Organizations: Four Gateways to Spirit at Work, Edgewalkers: People and Organizations that Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground, and The Spirit of Project Management. She is the editor of The Handbook for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. Judi has been active in creating communities that support spirituality in the workplace, as the founder of The International Center for Spirit at Work, and the International Spirit at Work Awards, and co-founder of the Management, Spirituality and Religion Interest Group at the Academy of Management. She is also co-founder of the Journal of Management, Spirituality, and Religion and on the Board of Directors of the International Association of Management, Spirituality and Religion. Judi received her Ph.D. from Yale in Organizational Behavior and lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas. For more information on Judi please visit her website: www.edgewalkers.org Or email her: judi@edgewalkers.org ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Judi Neal PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Judi Neal (Episode 21)

  In Episode 21, Carol talks with Judi Neal, PhD, a recognized expert and academic on spirituality in the workplace. Judi speaks and consults internationally. Clients include Pfizer, GE, Unilever, General Dynamics, Hewlett-Packard and others. In this first part of a two-part interview, you’ll hear about Judi’s journey from whistle blower to management professor, the bottom line benefits that are created when employees become connected to something greater than themselves and to others, and the power of aligning individual values and organizational values. Judi and Carol also talk about the inner work of the leader, a “crisis of awe”, and how silence plays a role in better decisions, individually and collectively. The first part of this interview concludes with a discussion on powerful, but often overlooked skills of the effective leader. Judi Neal is the Chairman of Edgewalkers International, the retired Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas and Professor Emeritus at the University of New Haven. Widely published, her books include Creating Enlightened Organizations: Four Gateways to Spirit at Work, Edgewalkers: People and Organizations that Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground, and The Spirit of Project Management. She is the editor of The Handbook for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. Judi has been active in creating communities that support spirituality in the workplace, as the founder of The International Center for Spirit at Work, and the International Spirit at Work Awards, and co-founder of the Management, Spirituality and Religion Interest Group at the Academy of Management. She is also co-founder of the Journal of Management, Spirituality, and Religion and on the Board of Directors of the International Association of Management, Spirituality and Religion. Judi received her Ph.D. from Yale in Organizational Behavior and lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas. For more information on Judi please visit her website: www.edgewalkers.org Or email her: judi@edgewalkers.org ### GUEST: Judi Neal HOST: Carol Ross PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Teaser for Episode 21

Sacred Conversation About Work Episode 20 In Episode 20, Carol continues her talk with Bill White, past CEO of Bell and Howell and past chairman of Whitestar Graphics, Inc and now an academic at Northwestern University. In this second part of a two-part interview, Bill talks about his worst and best work experiences, why humility can be hard to find in business, and the importance of joy, self-awareness, and experimentation for a successful career. You’ll learn the secret to happiness, as Bill shares more of his life story, including the losses that he’s experienced and the blessings that he’s received. Listen in for remarkable advice from a seasoned business executive, generous teacher and a true humanitarian. Bill White has been a Professor in the McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science at Northwestern University for over twenty years. His passion for developing the next generation of leaders has resulted in numerous teaching awards--and a special place in the hearts and minds of current students and alumni. His most recent book: From Day One: CEO Advice to Launch an Extraordinary Career is targeted to young professionals starting their careers. Bill White knows of what he speaks and writes. In addition to his time at Bell and Howell and Whitestar, he held executive positions with USG, Mead, and Hartmarx Corporations. He has served on the board of nine public companies and several startups, including The Reader’s Digest Association, USG, Harris Bank, and the Chicago Stock Exchange. He currently is on the board of the National Association of Corporate Directors. For more information on Bill please visit his website: http://myextraordinarycareer.com/ Or email him: white@northwestern.edu GUEST: William J White HOST: Carol Ross ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Bill White (Episode 20)

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