A horse won't follow you because of your title. It follows you because of your presence. Wencke Meteling, leadership coach and former historian, joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to explain how equine coaching makes invisible leadership patterns visible. From energy work in the arena to the lead rope team exercise, this episode connects somatic awareness, authentic presence, and practical leadership development in ways that stay with you long after the conversation ends.

A horse won't follow you because of your title. It follows you because of your presence. Wencke Meteling, leadership coach and former historian, joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to explain how equine coaching makes invisible leadership patterns visible. From energy work in the arena to the lead rope team exercise, this episode connects somatic awareness, authentic presence, and practical leadership development in ways that stay with you long after the conversation ends.

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What Horses Reveal About Leadership That Humans Miss: Wencke Meteling on Equine Coaching and Authentic Presence

82% of coaches fail within two years of starting a business. Laura Berman Fortgang, MCC, has spent 30 years solving that problem.Laura is a founding member of the International Coaching Federation, student number 16 at Coach U, and author of five books. She now runs the A-List Coach, a program for coaches who want to build a practice that actually works.In this episode, she shares why speaking is the fastest route to a full pipeline, how to handle sales calls the same way you handle a coaching conversation, and what the rise of AI means for the future of professional coaching.

82% of coaches fail within two years of starting a business. Laura Berman Fortgang, MCC, has spent 30 years solving that problem.Laura is a founding member of the International Coaching Federation, student number 16 at Coach U, and author of five books. She now runs the A-List Coach, a program for coaches who want to build a practice that actually works.In this episode, she shares why speaking is the fastest route to a full pipeline, how to handle sales calls the same way you handle a coaching conversation, and what the rise of AI means for the future of professional coaching.

The Business Skills Most Coaches Never Learn: Laura Berman Fortgang on 30 Years of Building a Coaching Practice

What happens when a coach stops worrying about labels and starts contracting for what the client actually needs? Dr. Clare Beckett-McInroy, ICF MCC and EMCC Master Practitioner, joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to discuss supervision, team coaching, neurodiversity, and why courage in contracting is the skill most coaches need right now. Clare brings 25+ years across education, leadership development, and systemic coaching practice. A rich, grounded conversation with ideas you can apply today.

What happens when a coach stops worrying about labels and starts contracting for what the client actually needs? Dr. Clare Beckett-McInroy, ICF MCC and EMCC Master Practitioner, joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to discuss supervision, team coaching, neurodiversity, and why courage in contracting is the skill most coaches need right now. Clare brings 25+ years across education, leadership development, and systemic coaching practice. A rich, grounded conversation with ideas you can apply today.

From Imposter to MCC: Dr. Clare Beckett-McInroy on Supervision, Team Coaching, and the Courage to Contract

Coaching emerged to meet a need in the world. But what is that need right now? Tracy Sinclair, founder of Coach Advancement, joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to explore why presence has become the most valuable thing a coach can offer. Leaders are burned out, disengaged, and running from one meeting to the next without a moment to think. Tracy makes the case that coaching's greatest opportunity is not helping people perform better. It is giving them space to be heard, settle their minds, and access the clarity that constant doing buries.

Coaching emerged to meet a need in the world. But what is that need right now? Tracy Sinclair, founder of Coach Advancement, joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to explore why presence has become the most valuable thing a coach can offer. Leaders are burned out, disengaged, and running from one meeting to the next without a moment to think. Tracy makes the case that coaching's greatest opportunity is not helping people perform better. It is giving them space to be heard, settle their minds, and access the clarity that constant doing buries.

Presence Is the New Performance: Tracy Sinclair on What Coaching Must Offer in a Distracted World

Your comfort zone is not comfortable. It is a zone of self-limitation. Alex Verlek, coach and author with nearly 20 years of experience, explains why. In this episode, Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave talk with Alex about the frameworks he uses with business owners, high potentials, and coaches in training. Topics include the awareness cycle, limiting beliefs, impact versus legacy, and what the future of coaching looks like as AI enters the picture. Alex also shares how writing three books at 60 became an act of professional legacy. A thought-provoking conversation for coaches and leaders who want to work with the whole human, not just the presenting problem.

Your comfort zone is not comfortable. It is a zone of self-limitation. Alex Verlek, coach and author with nearly 20 years of experience, explains why.In this episode, Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave talk with Alex about the frameworks he uses with business owners, high potentials, and coaches in training. Topics include the awareness cycle, limiting beliefs, impact versus legacy, and what the future of coaching looks like as AI enters the picture.Alex also shares how writing three books at 60 became an act of professional legacy. A thought-provoking conversation for coaches and leaders who want to work with the whole human, not just the presenting problem.

Why the Comfort Zone Is a Zone of Self-Limitation: Alex Verlek on 20 Years of Coaching the Whole Human

Most leadership coaching stops at mindset. Erin Hutchins, MCC and CEO of ACT Leadership, says the next layer of performance lives in the body. In this episode of The Coaching Edge Podcast, Erin joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to discuss how she helps senior leaders ground themselves before coaching conversations, why stuck emotions show up as physical pain, and how movement and music form the core of her new embodiment program. Erin also shares how she built ACT Leadership alongside her husband Mike Hutchins, hiring for trust and accountability while expanding their coach training programs across the United States. If you coach leaders or work in high-performance environments, this conversation offers a practical look at what happens when you bring the body into the room.

Most leadership coaching stops at mindset. Erin Hutchins, MCC and CEO of ACT Leadership, says the next layer of performance lives in the body.In this episode of The Coaching Edge Podcast, Erin joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to discuss how she helps senior leaders ground themselves before coaching conversations, why stuck emotions show up as physical pain, and how movement and music form the core of her new embodiment program.Erin also shares how she built ACT Leadership alongside her husband Mike Hutchins, hiring for trust and accountability while expanding their coach training programs across the United States.If you coach leaders or work in high-performance environments, this conversation offers a practical look at what happens when you bring the body into the room.

From Mindset to Embodiment: Erin Hutchins on What Leaders Are Missing in Their Coaching Journey

What would your life look like if you stopped living by other people's expectations? Sandra Stocks, NLP practitioner, energy worker, and bestselling author, joins The Coaching Edge Podcast to explore authenticity, the inner voice, and the Hell Yes framework. Sandra explains why motivation alone rarely creates lasting change, why emotional goals matter more than outcome targets, and how curiosity opens the door when goal pressure closes it. A practical and thought-provoking conversation for coaches and anyone ready to start asking what they genuinely want.

What would your life look like if you stopped living by other people's expectations? Sandra Stocks, NLP practitioner, energy worker, and bestselling author, joins The Coaching Edge Podcast to explore authenticity, the inner voice, and the Hell Yes framework.Sandra explains why motivation alone rarely creates lasting change, why emotional goals matter more than outcome targets, and how curiosity opens the door when goal pressure closes it. A practical and thought-provoking conversation for coaches and anyone ready to start asking what they genuinely want.

From Shoulds to Hell Yes: Sandra Stocks on Authenticity, Energy Coaching, and Living Your Own Life

Most leaders manage their teams without first managing themselves. Margaret Andrews, Harvard instructor and author of Manage Yourself to Lead Others, has spent nearly 20 years closing that gap. In this episode, she shares the self-awareness framework she teaches at Harvard, covering emotional intelligence, values clarity, feedback patterns, and team resilience. Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave join her for a practical, direct conversation about what it takes to lead well from the inside out.

Most leaders manage their teams without first managing themselves. Margaret Andrews, Harvard instructor and author of Manage Yourself to Lead Others, has spent nearly 20 years closing that gap. In this episode, she shares the self-awareness framework she teaches at Harvard, covering emotional intelligence, values clarity, feedback patterns, and team resilience. Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave join her for a practical, direct conversation about what it takes to lead well from the inside out.

The Self-Awareness Framework That Shapes Better Leaders: Margaret Andrews on 20 Years of Teaching at Harvard

Dr. Marcia Reynolds started coaching in 1995 and helped design the original ICF competencies. Her message today: AI is forcing coaches back to the one thing it cannot replicate — genuine emotional presence. In this episode, Marcia explains how a coach's emotional state co-regulates the client's nervous system, which is the actual mechanism behind coaching breakthroughs. She challenges the idea that following the rules makes you a better coach, and argues that mastery means learning the structure well enough to forget it and be fully present. She also covers why leadership development keeps failing in organizations, what KPIs Maersk used to make coaching skills measurable, and why the profession needs to stop treating human connection as a trend. Her book Coach the Person Not the Problem, second edition, released on March 3rd, 2026.

Dr. Marcia Reynolds started coaching in 1995 and helped design the original ICF competencies. Her message today: AI is forcing coaches back to the one thing it cannot replicate — genuine emotional presence.In this episode, Marcia explains how a coach's emotional state co-regulates the client's nervous system, which is the actual mechanism behind coaching breakthroughs. She challenges the idea that following the rules makes you a better coach, and argues that mastery means learning the structure well enough to forget it and be fully present.She also covers why leadership development keeps failing in organizations, what KPIs Maersk used to make coaching skills measurable, and why the profession needs to stop treating human connection as a trend. Her book Coach the Person Not the Problem, second edition, released on March 3rd, 2026.

Why Emotional Presence Separates Great Coaches From Good Ones: Dr. Marcia Reynolds on 30 Years at the Edge of the Profession

Coaches are trained to ask great questions. But most find selling deeply uncomfortable. Lisa Carver spent 16 years as a corporate sales leader before becoming a team and leadership coach, and she has a clear view on why. In this conversation with Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave, Lisa explains why a single LinkedIn message is only the first five minutes of a two-year campaign, how she traveled to meet a cold lead and kept that client for four and a half years, and why case studies are now more valuable than a perfect proposal in an AI world. She also covers how to measure coaching outcomes with simple, client-rated objectives so every engagement produces evidence you can use. Episode page: <a href="https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/why-your-sales-background-is-an-asset-not-a-liability-lisa-carver-on-building-a-coaching-business-that-wins-clients/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(4, 57, 89);">https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/why-your-sales-background-is-an-asset-not-a-liability-lisa-carver-on-building-a-coaching-business-that-wins-clients/</a>

Coaches are trained to ask great questions. But most find selling deeply uncomfortable. Lisa Carver spent 16 years as a corporate sales leader before becoming a team and leadership coach, and she has a clear view on why.In this conversation with Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave, Lisa explains why a single LinkedIn message is only the first five minutes of a two-year campaign, how she traveled to meet a cold lead and kept that client for four and a half years, and why case studies are now more valuable than a perfect proposal in an AI world.She also covers how to measure coaching outcomes with simple, client-rated objectives so every engagement produces evidence you can use.Episode page: https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/why-your-sales-background-is-an-asset-not-a-liability-lisa-carver-on-building-a-coaching-business-that-wins-clients/

Why Your Sales Background Is an Asset, Not a Liability: Lisa Carver on Building a Coaching Business That Wins Clients

He built one of the largest coaching companies in the Middle East from nothing. Nic Woodthorpe-Wright spent 20 years educating a market that had never heard of coaching, and today leads a network of over 100 ICF-accredited coaches working with major corporations across the region. In this conversation with Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave, Nic shares his approach to selling coaching through passion rather than persuasion, what organizations look for when they hire coaches, and how to prove ROI in corporate coaching programs. He also addresses where AI fits in the future of coaching and why human connection remains at its core. Watch the full episode here: <a href="https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/?p=3516" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(4, 57, 89);">https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/nic-woodthorpe-wright-on-building-a-100-coach-company-and-selling-what-the-world-needs/</a>

He built one of the largest coaching companies in the Middle East from nothing. Nic Woodthorpe-Wright spent 20 years educating a market that had never heard of coaching, and today leads a network of over 100 ICF-accredited coaches working with major corporations across the region.In this conversation with Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave, Nic shares his approach to selling coaching through passion rather than persuasion, what organizations look for when they hire coaches, and how to prove ROI in corporate coaching programs. He also addresses where AI fits in the future of coaching and why human connection remains at its core.Watch the full episode here: https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/nic-woodthorpe-wright-on-building-a-100-coach-company-and-selling-what-the-world-needs/

Nic Woodthorpe-Wright on Building a 100-Coach Company and Selling What the World Needs

Steve Hamilton-Clark spent 27 years as a CEO in the Middle East before founding The 18th Camel, his global executive coaching practice. In this conversation with Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave, Steve shares why self-leadership matters more than business strategy for executives. He reveals the single question he asks at the end of every coaching session, why CEOs are often the least heard people in their organizations, and how vision-first coaching keeps leaders moving forward. Steve explains why presence matters more than technique, how emotional connection drives team ownership, and why the future of successful leadership depends on heart count over head count. The conversation offers practical insights for coaches building their businesses and leaders wanting to show up differently for their teams. Watch the full episode here: <a href="https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/?p=3507" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(4, 57, 89);">https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/steve-hamilton-clark-on-why-heart-centered-leadership-drives-real-business-results/</a>

Steve Hamilton-Clark spent 27 years as a CEO in the Middle East before founding The 18th Camel, his global executive coaching practice. In this conversation with Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave, Steve shares why self-leadership matters more than business strategy for executives.He reveals the single question he asks at the end of every coaching session, why CEOs are often the least heard people in their organizations, and how vision-first coaching keeps leaders moving forward. Steve explains why presence matters more than technique, how emotional connection drives team ownership, and why the future of successful leadership depends on heart count over head count.The conversation offers practical insights for coaches building their businesses and leaders wanting to show up differently for their teams.Watch the full episode here: https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/steve-hamilton-clark-on-why-heart-centered-leadership-drives-real-business-results/

Steve Hamilton-Clark on Why Heart-Centered Leadership Drives Real Business Results

Mind Movies co-founder Natalie Ledwell explains why AI fails at creating emotional transformation. After 9 years traveling with Dr. Joe Dispenza and building a $700K launch week, Natalie brings hard-won wisdom to this conversation with Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave. She shares why affirmations need human co-creation to work. She explains how to build a coaching business without burning out. And she issues a challenge: stop asking "how could they think that?" and start asking "help me understand." Natalie's three keys for coaches: design your life first, build from a solid foundation (not survival mode), and surround yourself with people who lift you up. Watch the full episode here: <a href="https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/?p=3499" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(4, 57, 89);">https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/natalie-ledwell-on-why-emotion-drives-transformation-and-how-coaches-should-use-ai/</a>

Mind Movies co-founder Natalie Ledwell explains why AI fails at creating emotional transformation.After 9 years traveling with Dr. Joe Dispenza and building a $700K launch week, Natalie brings hard-won wisdom to this conversation with Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave.She shares why affirmations need human co-creation to work. She explains how to build a coaching business without burning out. And she issues a challenge: stop asking "how could they think that?" and start asking "help me understand."Natalie's three keys for coaches: design your life first, build from a solid foundation (not survival mode), and surround yourself with people who lift you up.Watch the full episode here: https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/natalie-ledwell-on-why-emotion-drives-transformation-and-how-coaches-should-use-ai/

Natalie Ledwell on Why Emotion Drives Transformation and How Coaches Should Use AI

What if the best thing a coach could do is shut up longer? Carly Anderson, a 28-year coaching veteran who trained in Australia's first certification program, joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to discuss why structure creates freedom in coaching. Carly explains why coaches default to proving expertise instead of trusting the process. When coaches stay quiet longer, clients discover wisdom they did not know they had. She shares the example of a CEO who spent 10 months listening before making any changes to his organization. The conversation also explores how AI will filter authentic coaches from those who use technology as a crutch. Carly believes the human presence remains essential for helping clients implement what they learn. Watch the full episode here: <a href="https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/?p=3492" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(4, 57, 89);">https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/carly-anderson-on-why-structure-creates-freedom-in-coaching/</a>

What if the best thing a coach could do is shut up longer? Carly Anderson, a 28-year coaching veteran who trained in Australia's first certification program, joins Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to discuss why structure creates freedom in coaching.Carly explains why coaches default to proving expertise instead of trusting the process. When coaches stay quiet longer, clients discover wisdom they did not know they had. She shares the example of a CEO who spent 10 months listening before making any changes to his organization.The conversation also explores how AI will filter authentic coaches from those who use technology as a crutch. Carly believes the human presence remains essential for helping clients implement what they learn.Watch the full episode here: https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/carly-anderson-on-why-structure-creates-freedom-in-coaching/

Carly Anderson on Why Structure Creates Freedom in Coaching

Most coaches quit within two years without a single paying client. Tim Brownson explains why. After 21 years in coaching and 13 years helping coaches build practices, Tim has seen the patterns. Training programs teach coaching skills but ignore business fundamentals. New coaches create websites filled with jargon like "holding space" and "creating alignment" that mean nothing to potential clients. Tim's advice: stop hiding behind your laptop. Get to networking events. Give talks. Run workshops. One in-person event produces more clients than months of Instagram posts. He also pushes coaches to embrace AI now. Tim uses it two to three hours daily and refuses to take clients who avoid it. The technology will transform coaching, and early adopters will have the advantage. Hosts Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave explore these themes with Tim on The Coaching Edge Podcast. Watch the full episode here: <a href="https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/?p=3484" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(4, 57, 89);">https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/tim-brownson-why-most-coaches-fail-at-marketing-and-how-to-fix-it/</a>

Most coaches quit within two years without a single paying client. Tim Brownson explains why.After 21 years in coaching and 13 years helping coaches build practices, Tim has seen the patterns. Training programs teach coaching skills but ignore business fundamentals. New coaches create websites filled with jargon like "holding space" and "creating alignment" that mean nothing to potential clients.Tim's advice: stop hiding behind your laptop. Get to networking events. Give talks. Run workshops. One in-person event produces more clients than months of Instagram posts.He also pushes coaches to embrace AI now. Tim uses it two to three hours daily and refuses to take clients who avoid it. The technology will transform coaching, and early adopters will have the advantage.Hosts Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave explore these themes with Tim on The Coaching Edge Podcast.Watch the full episode here: https://thecoachingedgepodcast.com/tim-brownson-why-most-coaches-fail-at-marketing-and-how-to-fix-it/

Tim Brownson: Why Most Coaches Fail at Marketing and How to Fix It

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