Big news. Sad news? Honest news. And hopeful news. The two pastors have discerned that this particular iteration of their voices together has come to an end. Listen in on them as they meander, in their signature manner, through the process of saying 'no' to this and being open to what the next 'yes' is.

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258. That's Wheels Up for the Two Pastors

We replay our interview with “This Side of Eve”, the creators of the theme music we are gratefully using this season. John and Alyssa Creasy join the two pastors for a conversation about music, faith, Pittsburgh, organic farming, climate change, the environment, Black Lives Matters, and acceptance. We also feature excerpts of several songs from their newest album, "More to Come." Please explore the music of This Side of Eve (thissideofeve.com) further on iTunes, Spotify, and Bandcamp. John's pastoral work is with the Open Door Church (pghopendoor.net) and the Garfield Community Farm (garfieldfarm.com) in Pittsburgh, PA. 

REPOST - Ep. 245 - All Life is Designed to Go Through a Cycle

This reposted episode first aired on 3/23/2018 but the topic of the two pastors' conversation is timeless. How can we tailor the life we are given so that we are living life that brings us joy, and not overfilling it with things we think we have to do?

REPOST - Ep. 111 - Right-Sized Life

In this repost from Jan. 18, 2019, the two pastors have a thoughtful conversation about the role of comedy in our lives. Comedy that pokes fun at real life provides a mirror for us to see what others see. But sometimes poking fun is just mean. What’s the difference? Why do we need comedy? 

REPOST - Ep. 154 - Taking Comedy Seriously

In this episode, which originally aired on May 7, 2021, the two pastors talk about how our personal space has changed as a result of the pandemic.

REPOST - Ep. 247 - Personal Space

The two pastors talk about creating extra space in their schedule to “leave room for the Holy Spirit.” Although there are occasional references to events that occurred around the time this episode was originally published (Nov. 6, 2020—Friday after Election Day, 2020), the two pastors' message is as relevant today as it was then.

REPOST - Ep. 232 - Leaving Room

People were important to Jesus, so Jesus had a lot to say about  issues in public life that concerned them: money, politics, power, authority, and so on. In doing so, Jesus gave a "face" to faith. Listen as the two pastors talk about how these issues continued to be prominent throughout history, even to this day, and where the Church has been relative to these issues. This is a repost of an episode that was originally published on Feb. 5, 2021.

REPOST - Ep. 242 - The Face of Faith

The two pastors give us a sign off until the fall. Both are wrapping up Summer 2021 with time off, hoping to be able to shut down and reboot. They hope you will do the same. See you after Labor Day!

257. Time to Reset

The “golden rule” is universal in that every religion has its version of this statement, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” But there is a flaw in this if we only ever love others the way we wish to be loved. What if our “others” need to be loved differently than we need to be loved? Listen in as the two pastors kick around the “Five Love Languages” as a way to push the Golden Rule a bit further. 

256. Love Languages and the Golden Rule

Even though these two pastors seem to talk about anything and everything, there are a lot of things pastors withhold. So much of their lives is in a “fishbowl.” In this episode the two pastors talk about how they can be more honest about the deeper struggles they have, whether it be preaching on July 4 or how tired they feel in this post-pandemic time. 

255. Walk Next to Me

Pastor Beth is in a sermon series on the “Fruit of the Holy Spirit”—human actions and attributes that reveal who God is in our world. Along the way, she’s reading a book called "Neuroscience and the Fruit of the Spirit,” by Bryan Spoon, to inform her thinking. The two pastors talk about the Spirit living in our physical bodies and how we can make way for the Spirit to be known in our world.

254. Love vs. Indifference

Pastor Michael is using Pride Sunday (June 27, 2021) as a way to offer his congregation yet another lens through which to understand the Christian faith. Listen in as the two pastors kick around his text for Sunday worship and how this story of Jesus instructs our lives. 

253. This Sunday is Pride Sunday

The two pastors continue last week's conversation (Ep. 251) about play and the need to let go of expectations or pre-conceived notions in order to experience or envision something new. And as it should… the conversation lands on the imagination of the late Gene Roddenberry. 

252. To Boldly Go...

Where are you needing to recalculate? Join the two pastors in this first of two conversations about the importance of play in personal, and organizational, development.

251. Play and the Cycle of Growth

The two pastors start their conversation with the Christian doctrine of the Trinity but it quickly develops into a broader conversation about how we deal with “unknowns” in life.

250. Unknowns

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between.

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