Where You Go, I Go

Episode 16: Homestyle

Two friends connect after the Iowa Caucus and prepare for Lent.

Episode 15: Lent Season

Two friends catch up after winter vacation and have a very long conversation, at one point talking about old time internet.

Episode 14: The Internet Years

Episode 13: Radio Show

Two friends talk about their experience as Iowa Artist Fellows.

Episode 12: Iowa Artists Pageant

Two friends talk about Rob's silent retreat. Shhhh... some people are trying to study here !

Episode 11: Silent Retreat

Rob and Rachel talk to Becky who moved to Iowa a year ago from the UK.

Episode 10: Spill the Tea

Two friends talk about Drag Con and bonobos. One is about to have a birthday.

Episode 9: Drag Con and Bonobos

Two friends talk about time. Show Notes: Tackling the Worry Cloud / Feeling Bad about Good Projects ? / Money or Time / 4 Hour Work Week / Is 100 thousand dollars a week is preposterous ? / Hourly Paycheck or Salary / Allan Watts Long Day / Transmission Cut Off - Missing Time / Thich Nhat Hanh / Trotsky / Profound v. Mundane / Slow Days / Unwillingness to Practice / I am going to be all Buddhisty, sorry / The Panic Voice / Not Reacting / Pushed Around by Life / Falling Out of the World but Everything is still Fine / Post Funeral Pizza / Mending the Wound by Treating it’s Roots / David Lynch and Russell Brant / Hey your not being mean to me anymore, what’s your problem ? / The Elasticity of Time / Float Tanks / Merging Back into the Marketplace of the World /What is this thing called Sarcasm / Hannah Arndt / This Trash World is Still Trash / Jen Leatherby vs. Trotsky / Corporate Mindfulness Culture as a Tool to Tranquilize Workers / What is Anger Nagging you About? / Banality of Evil misrepresented / Active or Passive Nazi / I draw the Line about badmouthing St. Bernie / Right Living / Things are Spiraling / Being an Artist in a World aflame / Personal Relationships Beat Logic / Artist Job as a Fear Wrangler / Loving Kindness Meditation / The Buzz of Thoughts / Pass It On / Generational Change / The Teens got this Gender Non Binary thing down / No One wants to follow a Prewritten Script / Getting Rid of Gender / Judith Butler is No big Deal to the Youngs / Contests Still Open / Question : What is the difference between emerging and established artist ? / Emerging Artist means who can be paid less, established means we have to Pay More / Zen Mind Beginners Mind Territory / MOMA Show is Not such a Good motivation / Putting Words on Art is a Way of Giving Civilians Permission to Engage / What to do when someone wants to buy the original, but there isn’t one ? / Young is to Cheap as New York is to California / Think Pieces about Grids

Episode 8: Time

Two friends invent hashtag contests. Show Notes: Worry Cloud for fun? I wish / Experiments in foam / Ghost Hands / White Linen Night / Air is thick and goopy like gumbo / Rob Has Temper Tantrum / White Flowing Sheets of Clothe ? No, but plenty of alcohol ? / Weirdo Hunting / Weird Ambiguity / Humble Brag ? / Internalized ablism ? / Brand New to my Treacherous Body / The Heavy Presence of Having a Walker / meeting people pre-visual disability versus post visual disability / Essentially Elderly / Good or Bad, Animal or Plant / Endless Judgement : The mother of judgement is always pregnant /Catty Ingersoll Neighborhood internet forum breeds SHADE / Complaining about complaining ? Talking about negativity and not being negative ? / Cognitive Therapy / Why is it ok to be a jerk to yourself ? / Insidiousness of dark views / Non Threatening or Approachable / Americorps / Baby Boomers radically transform universal design as they age / The iPhone biggening continues / Lamoni IA ( pop.2000) arch nemesis Leon IA gets love from Iowa Arts Council / Called out on our terrible advice by Jeff / New Alluvial Beer in Ames - Delicious / Cats Paw / All the kids love white claw / Bucketsful of Lacroix / WITCH CAMP ! / WIITCH TIIT BAND / Lyndsay Nissen and Reliable Street / Bread and Butter Art / Selling out ? / Melissa schemes how to take money from all them “13 reasons why” teens / Audition : Mr. Hands Spokesperson Opportunity / Rob and Melissa’s Annual War on Christmas Movies / Too many movies ? / Are trashy exploitation films really research ? / Keith from the Druids band instagram “Keith Watches Films” / Puppet Fish / Hours Before Sleep / Bemis / Choices come out of limitations / Does Idealism enter into it ? Does a Trust fund really make your life great? / Is convenience worse ? Leslie H ? Is that Leslie Hall ? THE LESLIE HALL !!! Cleaning house ? Good answer v. Actual answer / Dust Bunnies art dump versus Marie Kondo / KonMari as installation manual for making a sculptural space or shrine / KonMari hurt my back / 2020 tidy festival / Dick Blick’s Catalog Overflow / When in doubt, dip it into slip and fire it in a kiln / Is this an advise show when we don’t really give advice ? / Is the that thick ass The Artists Handbook by Ralph Mayer a good place to hide your pot ? / Audience , 2 calls to action !! / 1. Help Ms. Leslie Hall out ! by posting your solutions to her Dick Block Catalog problem by posting pictures to #lesliehalldickblickcatalog on Instagram / Become A ghost hand spokes person by posting picture to #goodkidrobmrhandcontest

Episode 7: Contests

Two friends talk about death. We’re almost a real podcast like the big wigs on iTunes / A very niche market of one / is napping a real use of studio time ? / Studio as a tithe or sacrifice to Art Gods / Travel the world, or tortino’s pizza rolls / Studio won’t starve without you / Infiltrating the Mr. Legs Pageant / Costumes are beyond extra / Just legs walking / Art will force you to participate / The House of Leg / Participation Ribbons / So Many Venues Begging to be taken / Is every moment a venue ? / Disability Feels / Selling out by making trashy things / Vampire Flip Flops crossed the line / Teen Suicide TV Program Plans to Showcase My robot / She’s Gotta Have It / Vaccines are controversial / Other People Have Exciting Lives and I am a House Plant / Digital Work v. Real Work / Sad Goodbye / "Out To Lunch" / Death Guru / Post Mortem Photography / The Eye Gallery / Be Blunt and Ask Questions / International Cat Day / Get Me Some of That Cat Money / There is a lid for every jar / Lions Gate Portal Opening / Never Ending Story / Western Attitudes Towards Death / Keeping the Body / Ritual as speed bump / Death Doula / “You are a little soul carrying about a corpse” Marcus Aurelius / Quitting Jobs / Maybe Think on it for like an Hour / You should quit even if it is a terrible idea / Art And-Or Politics / Culture is always complicit / Self Indulgence in Art ? how far is too far ? / Self Expression versus Expression / What is so fearful about indulgence / There is only so much variation / Amanda Palmer - The Art of Asking / Making art for an audience of one / Who or when is the audience / The audience is PART of the piece / Everyone waters themselves down - artists are agents of self determination / Is it asking too much of my loved ones to throw me in bonfire to save money on caskets / People seldom argue with a dead person / Mushroom Bags / Hannibal tv show seemed super gay , in a good way

Episode 6: Death

Two friends talk about music, sorta. Rosewood Piano / Music seems real complicated problem for fingers / Keys, rhythm ? / Being In a band as a means of ego reduction? / Music is like jump Rope / Is effortlessness worth it ?/ "OMG - you can choose to do the easy thing ? Mind Blown !" / MS can Kick Rocks/ Parsing energy per day / Sliding through life like a warm knife through butter - is that possible ? / Pianos hate hands / The Cringing Ice Skater -Your Audience has enough problems, and don’t need to be dragged into yours / Apple Pencil? With these Giant Gorilla Monster Hands ? / Mouse is like Drawing with thick bar of soap - but I love it / Illustrator Basic Shapes - Is laziness the key to most modern design ?/ If most people do it, then it is perceived as “professional”/ A penis !?! In my art ? If I had known it would be that kind of party…./ Galleries / Too Many TJs / Moberg Gallery / Olsen Larsen Gallery /Creative Capital Blues / You are the one with the valuable commodity/ It is an artist statement, not a deposition / Swoon - Street Art/ Do you even need a gallery ? / My dead feet are the elephant in the room / Everything tastes like Aluminum / Rob will make you a poster ( offer excludes Nazi’s, White Supremacists, Gun Enthusiasts, Religious Extremists, Trumpers etc. ) / DesMoines is a nice womb / Constipated Cat / Do you have to be a trust fund baby to make art ? / Witch Lady Memory Narrative Construction / Overactive Bossy Brain / You don’t need to prove you can make art / Getting civilians to do civilian things for you / “Social Media Influencers” and their ilk / Assemble your art squad / “you only need to convince ten people you are an artist to be an artist” / Iowa Art Fellowship Trash Talk and SHADE / Iowa State Fair Husband Yelling / Subverting the Mr. Legs contest with Gender Terrorism ? / As always, Snitched get Stiches

Episode 5: Music

Two friends talk about magic with their friend Mia! ABRACADABRA- The infinite canvas of podcasting / Guest Artist - Magician Mia Farrell / Artists have lots of problems apparently / Art and Relationships / Should Artists date other Artists / Magicking and Art / Ritual versus Performance Art / “Performative Art” versus performance art / Difference between performance art and mere theatre / AN audience is not a neutral element / Creating Auspiciousness/ Everything is intentional, specific and chosen / Is magick just matter of making everything chosen - is art ? / Is the audience complicit with you ? / Making visual things to hold you accountable to your identity / Who do you want to be ? Why not just be that then ? / Performance art as physical test - the body never lies / Point of contact / Kitty City / Exchanging energy / no money = safe from criticism ? / Make art, or play candy crush / Good Luck Bad Luck - Hexes / What makes something positive or negative / Chapman House / Constructing Narratives / Randomness versus intention / Intention - you need to make choices on purpose / Shrine as sculpture / Art as gift /Do good and bad even apply to art ? / “ I was not ready for Bjork at that time in my life” ​Advice - Starting over ? Making friends in art community / Don’t wait for a key / Making friends and Influencing people / Is criticism even helpful or needed ? / We have maxed out our Sound cloud - Help ?

Episode 4: Magic

Two friends talk while one is at the beach. Son of a beach ! We are at the “Oh God” Stage of the podcast. ​ Show Notes: 80 / 35 Rabbits in sculpture park traumatized by music / crown making, theft and fire / tarot bibliomancy / selling art work -is it betraying your work to try to sell it in Etsy or other trashy social media ? Tropical Storm Barry - boring AF/ rule breaking and making art with civilians / ruining art as a good strategy for making art “ I’m the artist and if I say it is zebra it is so shut up !” Floodgates are open but now what ? Art as evidence of your damage. Are deadlines part of your process ? Are periods of hibernation part of your process ? Animal Totems, Spirit Rabbits - calling your fear to you with anxiety. Borrowing tomorrows troubles. Ringing bells and hammering nails incorrectly . Websites as elevator pitch. “Internet is so flat” . “Looking at art square in the eye.” Self sabotage.

Episode Three: Beach

Two friends talk about drag. Show Notes: Good Kid Rob Prints www.ebay.com/str/goodkidrobprints Follow us instagram! @goodkidrob & @laze_tornado Art Week Des Moines Most & Least Awards youtu.be/yGR9d9acDfo Red Grooms, Fat Feet: ubu.com/film/grooms_fat.html

Episode Two: Drag

Two friends talk. One in Iowa, the other in Louisiana. Sometimes there are guests!

hubhopper

Where You Go, I Go

hubhopper