You probably know Jenna Bush Hager as Hoda’s co-host on TODAY with Hoda & Jenna. As you’ll hear, they’re so friendly on air because they’re real friends off-air — and their friendship has only grown and deepened over the years. And because this podcast has been about friendship and wisdom, there’s no better way to bring it all home than with a girlfriend. For our last episode of Season One, we invite you into an intimate conversation, touching on everything from lessons learned by example during childhood to what it means for Jenna to turn 40. Together, Hoda and Jenna talk about birth, love, loss and the importance of work ethic. Plus, a special look back at the highlights and moments that touch on what Hoda is finally making space for.

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Jenna Bush Hager: "Allow For That Space"

As a bonus for you, TODAY’s Al Roker is sharing a special preview of his brand-new original podcast, Cooking Up a Storm with Al Roker.Join Al as he whips up a complete Thanksgiving feast with some of the very best chefs around – like Ina Garten and Marcus Samuelsson. Grab your apron as they spill the beans on family secrets to get you ready for the holidays. It’s a feast for the ears!Listen now to Cooking Up a Storm with Al Roker:https://link.chtbl.com/cus_feed

Introducing: Cooking Up a Storm with Al Roker

Nine-time Grammy Award-winner Sheryl Crow has spent the last three decades performing for sold-out crowds and festivals. But rarely do we get a glimpse into her very private personal life. Today, as Sheryl approaches sixty, she sits down with Hoda for a very intimate conversation. They connect over experiences they’ve both endured – like surviving breast cancer and the dissolution of a relationship. They also share a deep joy in simple things like the honor of motherhood later in life and the fulfillment that comes with reaching this stage in the game. Sheryl shares what she’s learned – perspective she’s gained from her own mother, her sons and thirty years in the music industry.

Sheryl Crow: “Getting to the Other Side”

Life Coach Iyanla Vanzant joins Hoda for a meaningful and eye-opening conversation. Stepping away after ten seasons of her smash hit “Iyanla: Fix My Life” on OWN, Iyanla answers difficult questions like how you know when something good has run its course and when (and how) to move on. Plus, picking up the pieces after heartbreak and unimaginable loss. Iyanla’s personal story is one of strength and resilience and her spiritual guidance is something we can all apply in our own lives.

Iyanla Vanzant: “When the Student is Ready, the Teacher Appears”

When sportswriter Mitch Albom started meeting with his former professor Morrie Schwartz toward the end of Morrie’s life, Mitch had no idea the impact those meetings would have — not only on him, but around the world. Mitch compiled those lessons into a book, and, nearly twenty-five years and 17 million copies of Tuesdays with Morrie later, Mitch Albom continues to apply the lessons learned from Morrie to live a richer and more purposeful life. Throughout this conversation, Hoda and Mitch connect on love, loss and legacy. As Mitch so beautifully details in this emotional conversation, “what we choose to fill our arms with, and what we choose to carry is actually what ends up defining us.”

Mitch Albom: “What We Choose to Carry is Actually What Ends Up Defining Us”

Oprah Winfrey and Maria Shriver describe their forty-two-year friendship as loyal, consistent and honest. Together they’ve navigated the ups and downs of life: births, deaths, marriage, divorce—and their own evolution. In this intimate and insightful conversation, Oprah and Maria share with Hoda what their four decades together have meant, and they look ahead to all the beauty yet to come. Plus, how do you surprise the queen of surprises? Oprah opens up about one of the darkest times in her life and how an unexpected moment brought her to her knees.

Oprah Winfrey & Maria Shriver: “The Word Was Cherish”

Best-selling author Anne Lamott knows a thing about overcoming obstacles. Thirty-five years on the other side of her addiction, Anne is the author of 19 books, a mother, grandmother, and in her 60s, a wife for the first time. Anne offers wisdom, candidly, and often, hilariously. She shares what she calls "operating instructions": how to master a life of peace and gratitude—a reminder that grace always meets you exactly where you are.

Anne Lamott: "Grace Always Meets You Exactly Where You Are"

At just 22 years old, writer Suleika Jaouad was given a 1-in-3 chance to live after a deadly cancer diagnosis. Today, she's celebrating seven years cancer-free. In a raw and revealing conversation, Suleika shares what it is like to stare down death, and why she feels fighting for your life isn't the hardest part of the journey – it’s what happens after the fight is over. Suleika shares how she learned to anchor herself while swimming in a sea of uncertainty. Plus, her partner and Academy Award-winning musician Jon Batiste joins the interview.

Suleika Jaouad & Jon Batiste: “Know How to Anchor Yourself”

Where do you draw your strength? Join TODAY’s Hoda Kotb on a journey of self-discovery and resilience of the human spirit. Hoda hears from some of the people she admires most, and whose stories of personal triumph keep her going. Like Hoda, you’ll leave these talks stronger than when you started and inspired to make space in your own life.

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