Peter Turchi takes the art and act of writing as an irresistible analog for the art and the act of living. His work is part of a long tradition of fascination with processes of writers and he is among the masters at relating that process in a way that reaches all domains of society. For anyone who has ever thought about writing - the craft of it, its centrality in the human experience, its analog for life itself - this conversation is for you.Show Notes:How he began writing (04:30)Dealing with rejection (12:00)Richard Russo writer (18:00)Maps of the Imaginations: The Writer as Cartographer (18:30)The Power of Maps by Dennis Woods (21:30)Other brilliant books on mapsJorge Luis Borges (19:00)Origins - Melanie Mitchell (28:30)Lisa Feldman Barrett (28:45)The Atlas of Cyberspace by Rob Kitchin (29:30)The Visual Display of Quantitative Information by Edward Tufte (30:15)Origins - Giorgia Lupi (31:20)Origins - Matt Russo (31:30)MFA Program at Warren Wilson (34:40)Productivity-driven culture (38:15)Alison Gopnik - Explore/Exploit paradigm (41:30)Charles Ritchie artist (45:30)E.O. Wilson - “A lifetime can be spent in a Magellanic voyage around the trunk of a single tree” (46:40)A Muze and a Maze (46:00)The Book of Sand by Borges (51:30)Joan Dideon “I write entirely to find out what I&apos;m thinking, what I&apos;m looking at, what I see and what it means. What I want and what I fear” Peter&apos;s daily routine (53:45)Lightning round (58:00):Book: Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov Passion: MusicMaking heart sing: Sonoran DesertFind guest online:http://www.peterturchi.com/&apos;Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series  Peter’s playlist

Origins: Explorations of thought-leaders' pivotal moments

Peter Turchi - Maps of the creative process and designs for life

Ethan Zuckerman is a voice that you need to know. He’s a pioneer for the use of media as a tool for social change, for cultivating international development with technology, and for the activation of new media technologies by activists. Ethan is uncommonly insightful about the currents and trends of our society. In this conversation he helps us understand the shape of our public discourse, and relates it to the world of today and tomorrow. Show Notes:Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows - Sonder (05:00)Book: Rewire (08:00)MIT Media Lab Center for Civic Media (12:00)Nathan Matias (Cornell)Catherine D&apos;Ignazio (MIT)Molly Sauter (University of Maryland)The Good Citizen Michael Schudson  (16:00)The Social Machine Judith Donath (16:20)Rachel Barenplat: the velveteen rabbi (18:40)QAnon (22:30)Global voices  (28:40)Small communities doing digital connection well (29:50)Michael Wood Lewis - Front Porch ForumEsra&apos;a Al ShafeiSara Lomax-Reese - WURD RadioOrigins episode with Richard Bartlett and Microsolidarity (33:45)The slow professor by Maggie Berg and Barbara Seeber (35:00)Mistrust (37:00)Twilight of the elites Chris Hayes (38:30)Black lives matter and defund the police (40:30)Problem with a zero sum view (44:30)The sum of us by Heath McGhee (47:45)Lightning round (50:40):Book: The Creation of the Media by Paul StarrPassion: Music and ethnomusicologyHeart sing: Traveling (blog) and board gamesScrewed up: RelationshipJoke answer: invented the pop-up adFind guest online:Twitter: @EthanZhttps://ethanzuckerman.com/&apos;Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series  Ethan’s playlist

Ethan Zuckerman - A master-course in how to connect and a syllabus for a spacious life

We find ourselves in a world that feels incongruent and unfamiliar, changing socially and technologically at paces that expose conventional explanations as inadequate. Climate change, pandemics, political unrest have punctuated this new century and feel like clarion calls for new ways of being and being together. Enter Richard D. Bartlett — someone who has been a pioneer in thinking about these new modes.Show Notes:Apologetics (06:30)What is community? (06:50)The concept of flourishing (08:15)Having a gift/role in the world (12:00)Robin Wall Kimmerer Braiding Sweetgrass "The most important thing that each of us can know is our unique gift and how to use it in the world" Occupy movement (12:00)J.P. Lederach&apos;s "Critical Yeast" from The Moral ImaginationGovernance strategies for our time (18:30)What it takes to scale community authentically? (25:00)Does change need to be orchestrated from a central point? (28:00)Complexity (31:00)Microsolidarity (31:30)Enspiral&apos;Crews&apos;How to weave social fabric blog post (43:00)Morning routine (43:10)Adrienne Maree Brown We Will Not Cancel Us (44:00)Writing practice (45:00)Sendhil Mullainathan Scarcity (49:45)Lightning Round (50:30)Books: Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance Robert PirsigThe listening society Hanzi FreinachtSandtalk Tyson YunkaportaOn Orality and Literacy Walter OngTomas Björkman Origins episodePassion: inventing instrumentsSonification - Matt Russo Origins episodeHeart sing: nonlinear and nonlogical use of languageScrewed up: Cheating on a partner, violating the terms of a relationshipFind guest online:Twitter: @RichDecibelsFollow Richard on MediumRichard&apos;s websitehttps://www.thehum.org/&apos;Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series  Richard’s playlist

Richard D. Bartlett: Meaningful work, social fabric, and flourishing

Tomas Björkman transcends science, business, philosophy, and social and personal change. Founder of the Ekskäret Foundation and coauthor of The Nordic Secret, Tomas’ story is a guide for anyone thinking about the future of society - a confluence of physics, macroeconomics, and entrepreneurship.Show Notes: Ekskäret Foundation; Oak Island Foundation (05:45) Origins of his union of scientific sensibility + entrepreneurship (07:00) From academia to business (09:00) Try to understand the world AND try to shape the world (10:00) Taking risks (12:00) We are not transparent to ourselves (14:30) Social entrepreneur (17:20) Complexity (21:30) The Nordic Secret (25:00) Corporate culture (26:20) Building stable lasting democracy (33:00) Conscious co-creation Inner maturity  Retreat centersJim Rutt podcast on the Nordic SecretGerman philosophical background: Schiller, Goethe, von Humboldt, Herder, Hegel — Bildung Are we facing deep and rapid societal change? (36:00)  Horizontal and vertical development (42:00) Otto Scharmer - vertical literacyFrederic Laloux Reinvent the OrganizationRobert Kegan   29k.org (51:00) Jonathan Rowson (52:30) Book: Spiritualize  Personal practices (59:30) Book: The World We CreateMorning routine (01:00:45) ‘Retreats in Nature' Guided psychedelic experiences (see Michael Pollan’s How to Change Your Mind)  Lightning Round (01:05:00) Book: Ken Wilbur Integral PsychologyPassion: Sailing and Trekking  Heart sing: Discovering fiction (where to start? Marcel Proust, Goethe, Schiller) Proust Questionnaire  Screwed up: Timing of media initiative Find guest online: http://www.tomas-bjorkman.com/EmergePerspectiva29k.orgFull Show Notes here

Tomas Björkman - Nature, the Nordic Secret, and what is emerging

Show Notes: Storytelling (03:00) Wonder Collaborative (04:30) Jane Goodall (05:00) Human Nature (CRISPR documentary) Nobel Prize Winner Jennifer DoudnaRon Vale (06:00) "Cell Hell” - Cell Biology and Genetics course at Middlebury iBiology (09:00) The power of words (09:45) “Bringing good people to work with you” (10:30) How do you build a team? Creating community that cuts across disciplines (11:20) "Antidisciplinary" Elliot Kirschner - ‘morphing’ iBiology Matthew Meselson and Franklin Stahl (16:00) The art of the question (17:45) Conversations in Science with Dan Rather (18:00) Reinventing science film-making (25:30) Stepping outside of academic research (26:00) Patronin protein (27:00) “I belong” moment (30:00) What is CRISPR and what do people not realize about its importance? (32:00) Equality of access to scientific progress (38:00) Tenets of innovating in science communication (40:30) Carl Sagan, Ann Druyan, Richard Feynman (44:45) Pandemic routine (45:45) Morning routine (49:00) Lightning round (51:00) Book: Harry Potter & Lord of the Rings; Creativity Inc (Pixar)Passion: Logos of communication  Heart Sing: Her kids (seeing language and expression develop) Screwed up: Writing grants Find guest online: iBiologyWonder Collaborative  Coming soon: Science Communication LabTwitter: @ssgoodwin'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series   Sarah’s playlist

Sarah Goodwin - How we need to communicate science in our changing world

Show Notes: Small Arcs of Larger Circles (02:00) Objectivity (05:45) Relationships and interdependencies (07:00) Smiling with your whole system (10:00) Flip side of delight and seeing connections (11:00) Language developed from your own frustration (13:30)Different kinds of teachers Esalen Institute (15:30) Diving more deeply into the arts and an exploration of culture (19:20) Working with different groupings of people (19:40) Describing things nonlinearly (20:30) 'Warm data' (23:50) Mutual learning between generations (27:00) ‘Change is when you throw away the ladder’ (28:00) Willingness to play and be wrong - inadequacy (30:00) New way of thinking and learning - Warm Data Labs (34:30) Observe the observer Multiple description Fluid patterning Paradox, inconsistency, time Holism, reductionismCultural Tone, texture, aestheticBertrand Russell logical typing'Transcontextual aboutness' (47:00) Symmathesy (52:30)Morning routine (55:00)Elvis Costello - embodying visions for things (58:00)Julie Odell How to Do Nothing (01:00:00)Andrea Gibson poem Tincture (01:01:50)Lightning Round (01:04:00)Book: Alice in WonderlandPassion: The willingness of art and not knowing where it is goingHeart sing: New dog, BlakeScrewed up: Doing things just in timeThe reason to give is not because of what you will get for itTend vitalityFind guest online: Twitter: @NoraBatesonhttps://batesoninstitute.org/nora-bateson/'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series   Guest’s playlist

Episode 28: Nora Bateson - Interconnectedness, warm data, and the vitality of things

Show Notes: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) (02:00) Rachel Carson’s words (03:30) Scale of things and perspective Pioneers of oceanography: Rossby and Montgomery (07:30) Global conclusions from small data (09:30) World Ocean Circulation Experiment (10:00) Eye-opening expeditions (12:00) All kinds of ways of ’seeing’ (14:00) Evolution of distributing data (15:00) Recording our experiences (17:00) Books (19:45) Burr by Gore Vidal  Iron Coffins by Herbert Werner Mentors and lessons:  “Had to make mistakes myself to realize what they [were] trying to tell me all along”  Thomas Rossby (25:00) Generosity of time and ideas Understanding of how people need to work together (28:00) Working across boundaries Curiosity-driven networks (29:50) NOAA Big Data Project (31:30) Establishing trust in group projects (34:45 and 37:45) The challenges of 2020 (37:50) Open Commons Consortium and Cancer Moonshot (49:20) The why and how of career shifts (52:00) First Street Foundation (54:00) Changing people’s minds about climate change More meaningful activities that just providing data https://floodfactor.com/Making effective data tools Not about prediction, but response (01:02:00) Humanity’s biggest advantage (01:07:00) Quantifying the risk due to and making decisions about climate change (01:12:00) Jenny Odell - art is being the orchestrator of attention (01:13:30) Giorgia Lupi episode Aoife Van Linden Tol episode  What makes us human (01:14:00) Lightning round (01:15:00) Book: The Information (James Gleick) ChaosPassion: family and outdoors together Heart sing: fire risk Screwed up: learning to say when he didn’t know something Find guest online: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/edwardkearns Twitter: @edward_j_kearns 'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series   Ed’s playlist

Episode 27: Ed Kearns - Exploring the ocean, generosity, and a culture of data

Show Notes: NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory (05:15) Mentors (07:20) Building and leading teams (13:15) Comfort with uncertainty (15:30) Waleed Abdalati Origins episode (18:30) What drew Nash to JPL (19:00) Trajectories to JPL (20:00) Why you need to read sociology books (22:00) Being a Renaissance Person - curiosity across human endeavors (22:40) T-shaped people (23:00) Challenging yourself (29:45) The change in mentality that comes with public service (32:50) NASA JPL Team X (35:15) What is Team X?van Allen, von Braun, and Pickering famous picture (38:00) What networked computers did for JPL (40:30) Alfred’s contribution to Team X efficiency - paper (42:15) Three types of fun (44:10) Thinking about how you provide information (46:15) Related: see discussion of human-centered design in Rachel Young Origins episode  "Murphy was an optimist” (48:00) Melanie Mitchell Origins episode (56:10) Writing (56:45) Helping Writers Become Authors podcastChildren of Tendu podcast and parallels to proposal writing Julia Cameron’s The Artist’s Way  Why you need to learn about design “All endeavors of humanity are communicative endeavors" “Vision without action is a daydream, action without vision is a nightmare" “You can never be too clear” (01:05:30) Thinking in questions (01:06:00) “The people who really make it in life are not those who get the right answer, but the ones that ask the right question”  Right question is the quantum leap to the right answer Lightning round (01:08:00): Book: Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman Passion: Gift of gab  Heart sing: Broadest possible definition of product development (The Invincible Company book)  Screwed up: Leading people during Planck Mission project Find guest online: Twitter @aeniiiNASA JPL  'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series   Alfred’s playlist

Episode 26: Alfred Nash - Insatiable curiosity, NASA and Team X, and the return of the Renaissance Man

Show Notes: Spiritual background of his childhood (05:30) Discipline to do good work (06:10) Mentor: Albert-László Barabási (09:30) How do you demand excellence? Musing on the competitive mentality (11:45) Relevance of science is a very social dimension (12:30) What he tells his students (13:30) Adapting as an individual (14:45) MIT Media Lab Collective Learning Group (17:00) The Last Dance documentary (18:30) The Playbook documentary series (18:40) Complexity (21:00) Fractals, iterating functions, and chaosLorenzFeigenbaumBook: Why information grows (26:45) What is information?  Book: How humans judge machines (30:20) Why has knowledge not made it everywhere?  TED Talk: “A bold idea to replace politicians” (34:20) Rethinking democracy and technology Trusting technologies (36:45) Counterfactuals (37:00) What is intelligence? (38:15) Failure that set up for later success (41:15) Reorienting yourself (42:30) Morning routine (45:30) Acting on first emotion (48:00) Do not lose the emotional energy that comes with creativity - it is fleeting and love is going to fade, so be romantic while love is there Lightning Round (40:15) Books: Blank Slate (Steven Pinker), the Righteous Mind (Jonathan Haidt), and the Secret of Our Success (Joseph Henrich) Passion: Writing Janna Levin (astrophysicist and writer): A Madman Dreams of Turing MachinesHeart Sing: Review of economic complexity Screwed up: Ability to accept things he has screwed up Find guest online: WebsiteTwitter: @cesifotihttps://www.judgingmachines.com/'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series   

Episode 25: César Hidalgo - Information and complexity, learning and leading, rethinking technology in society

Show Notes: Santa Fe Institute (2:00) Alexander Hamilton biography by Ron Chernow (4:30) The Universe and Dr. Einstein by Lincoln Barnett (5:45) Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter (7:30) Martin Gardner Scientific American “Mathematical Games" (8:30) Douglas Hofstadter (10:00) John Holland (14:30) Adaptation in Natural and Artificial SystemsCopycat cognitive architecture (17:00) Description  Fantastic discussionWhat sustains her in moments of doubt (21:00) Article about analogies related to COVID (25:00) Overcoming the sense of obligation to follow curiosity (27:30) Strategy for saying ’no’ (29:45) Morning routine (31:00) Pomodoro Method for time management (33:00) Complexity and complex systems (39:00) Must read: Chaos by James Gleick  R-naught parameter and COVID (44:00) Becoming comfortable with uncertainty (45:00) Think about the world in terms of information Think more complexly - think in relationships instead of entities (46:45) Network scienceSFI - Transmission Series (49:15) What is missing from our models of intelligence? (50:00) Writing process (54:00) Anne Lamott Bird by Bird (57:45) Lightning round (58:30) Book: The Recursive Universe  John Conway’s Game of Life  Passion: outdoors Heart sing: analogy and abstraction beyond human intelligence Screwed up: Early life with with physics Find Melanie online https://melaniemitchell.me/Twitter: @MelMitchell1 'Five-Cut Fridays’ series  Melanie’s list

Episode 24: Melanie Mitchell - The nature of intelligence and following your curiosity

Show Notes: Data-driven design firm AccuratData humanismWhen she realized design was going to be a part of her life (07:00) A ’new chapter’ in her life to fuse data and design (07:30) What teachers told her that changed her (08:00) Discovery of information design (09:00) Rules versus limitations (10:15) Rules as catalyzers of creativity Pushing yourself beyond your comfort zone Phases of dealing with COVID-19 (13:00) Think about yourself in 2-3 years - who do you want to remember yourself to be? (13:45) Daily practices (14:15) How to be in touch with what makes you feel better (15:30) Be patient with yourself What she does when she feels uncreative (16:30) Saying no to things (19:00) Setting rules for yourself Decide who it is that you are Maria Popova and Brain Pickings (23:15) Design vs. data science (25:00) Data as a way to analyze oneself (25:15) Design firm IDEO and user-centered design (28:30) Antidisciplinary (28:40) What to avoid when starting a new project (29:15) The tension between familiarity and the unknown (30:15) The energy you put out (32:20) The value of new creative environments (33:00) Pentagram (33:20) Not the next ’thing,’ the next ‘chapter’ (35:00) Using a language is a way to train the brain (37:00) MIT Media Lab (38:30) Friends in space piece (42:00) Lightning Round (44:00): Book: The image of the city Kevin Lynch Passion that set her path: playing the piano Latest passion: Romantic relationship Screwed up: Relationship with her father and time Find Giorgia online http://giorgialupi.com/Twitter'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series  Giorgia’s list

Episode 23: Giorgia Lupi - Harmonizing life and data through design

Show Notes: Marx Philosophic and Economic manuscript of 1844 (3:30) Changed by exposure to systematic class privilege (7:10) ‘Cubilcle’-ization revolution (8:10) Normative aspects of economics and markets (11:30) The American Economic Journal (15:00) Being intellectually curious (16:00) Hugh Lacey History of Philosophy and Science - Swarthmore (16:00) Thomas Kuhn - Structure of Scientific Revolutions (18:30) How scientific ‘controversies’ arise and how they are resolved Intellectual fruitfulness of doing philosophy of X where X can be any discipline or problem (20:00) Turning point: do this from political and economic philosophy  Normative inquiry has to be responsive to the actual experiences of people (22:00) Early life as a contemporary philosopher (24:00) John Dewey and privatism (25:00) Max Weber “Science as a Vocation" (26:30) Any vocation is ‘Wissenschaft’ (knowledge-making) Sustaining moments are those when the big questions arise Why it is hard to ask people what matters to them (32:00) Ethnography and human-centered design - how your ideas impact on the ground (33:20) Read broadly (34:00) "The Island Of Stone Money” - Island of Yap (36:30) Creative process (38:20) “The key is always to keep reading" How she decides what to read - have a research question in mind (39:20) What is populism? By Jan-Werner Müller (42:20) Landmark paper “What is the point of equality” (42:30) Quest for equality is a quest for justice, to get rid of oppressive social relations (46:20) MacArthur Foundation ‘Genius Grants’ (47:25) Cecilia Conrad Origins episode (48:20) Future book (50:30) Research into how different disciplines attributes ‘genius’ (51:30) Definitions of genius (52:00) How she organizes information (52:30) Thomas Piketty Capital in the Twenty-First Century (1:00:00) Morning routine (1:07:10) Locke’s Second Treatise (1:09:50) Lightning Round (1:17:00) Book: The Theory of Moral Sentiments by Adam Smith 'Five-Cut Fridays’ series  Guest’s list

Episode 22: Elizabeth Anderson - A new equality and the philosopher for this moment in American life

Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES) (06:00) One of ten people to be ’NASA Chief Scientist&apos; Being led around by your curiosity ‘Pulls&apos; from our earliest ages in life (07:30) The Arctic from space (10:00) The ’space-based perspective&apos; ’No better compass than your emotions’ (11:30) Constructive emotions Opportunities to connect mind and body (14:00) Love of career and love of family (23:30) “It has to give you energy and not drain energy from you" (25:00) What he tells his students (28:00) Think about the act of learning The goal: learn, grow, have new experiences (30:00) Becoming comfortable with discomfort - not that hard if you believe in it and if you believe you can contribute meaningfully to it (34:00) Existing in little space (35:00) Antidisciplinary (36:00) NASA = ‘bureaucratic manifestation of all that makes us human’ (38:00) Study the far off places that only exist in our imagination Takes our humanity and our human spirit to the limit Communicating difficult things (44:00) It is our responsibility to understand why others feel and think the way that they do (50:45) Physics is better behaved than social science (58:00) Put yourself in a place of understanding why someone may feel differently than you (59:00) Put the energy into understanding a divergent perspective from yours Lightning Round (1:02:00): Book: Surely You&apos;re Joking, Mr. Feynman! and What Do You Care What Other People Think?Marriage of cerebral and emotional sides Passion that helped set your path: theater and his children Making your heart sing now: glimmers of hope in the tragedies of this era’s events Screwed up: education and career path (1:07:00) Enjoy the challenge to think differently &apos;Five-Cut Fridays’ series  Guest’s list

Episode 21: Waleed Abdalati - NASA Chief Scientist and how to live a life led by your curiosity

Show Notes: Privilege brings with it a sense of responsibility (4:00) Empowering others - "nurturing, supporting, and uplifting" (5:30) “Talent in unexpected locations" Levels of impact: individual and systems (7:45) Carrying people with you (8:20) POSSE Foundation (8:40) Compensatory and Distributive Justice (9:00) What she tells her students (10:45) Most proud of integrating race and gender into economics programs (11:00) What we are missing in the discourses of race and gender Difficult to reshape pre-conceived notions unless you allow everyone to explore (13:00) Interconnectedness of society and systems level thinking (14:00) A must read - Thinking in Systems by Donella Meadows Becoming more comfortable with complexity and uncertainty - Santa Fe Institute guidance during COVID-19Cecilia’s message during COVID-19 (15:00) The Top 100 from 100&Change Respond to COVID-19 (16:30) “We don’t have the luxury of backing away from challenges to focus on a single one” (18:30) MacArthur Fellows Program (19:00) Characteristics of fellows (24:30) Howard Gardner “fruitful asynchrony” and his book Creating Minds (26:00) Role of poetry in Cecilia’s life (27:50) Her published poem “Apathy" The Poetry Foundation (29:15) The On Being Project (30:00) Finding hope and despair right now (31:00) Second-line show for healthcare workers (32:15) 'Five-Cut Fridays’ series  Cecilia’s list

Episode 20: Cecilia Conrad - Steward of the MacArthurs Genius Grants, 100 Million Dollars, and Transcendent Empowerment

Show Notes: Human Rights Data Analysis Group (HRDAG) (1:40) The contagious nature of imprisonment paper (1:50) Value of community colleges (6:30) Professor Dan Balaguy at Sierra College (7:20) Professor Richard Stong at Rice University - Combinatorics (8:30)  Coming to an understanding of one’s career and curiosity (10:20)  How can we make the public more data literate (i.e., numeracy)? (12:15) Maintain a healthy skepticism of numbers - think more critically (see Seth Godin’s thoughts)  Data can encode discrimination and bias (16:10) Predictive policing algorithms - Kristian’s paperBe reflective about where patterns in data come from Importance of uncertainty (20:00) HRDAG ‘casualty estimations’ (21:10) Humanize the data (22:00) Describing how systematic things can be (23:50) Taking chances (e.g., Tim Ferriss guidance on cold emailing) (24:50) Where do you get your confidence and energy (26:50) Maintaining beginner’s mindset - blur disciplinary lines (28:20) “The most beautiful experience we have is the mysterious” -Einstein (29:20) How do you grapple with the outrage of injustice? Those with data skills need to get involved with criminal justice reform (36:20) Volunteer with public defenders - make sure you are a low barrier to people if you volunteer Talk with the people closest to the problem - human-centered approachFind ways that your unique skills can help How do you maintain your energy? (39:50) Morning routine (40:30) Lightning Round (43:10) Book: Harry Potter Passion: sowing costumes What is making your heart sing now? Her daughter Screwed up: partial differential equations Further reading and getting involved in criminal justice reform Pod Save the People podcast (38:30) https://theappeal.org/ news source (39:00) Ear Hustle podcast Organizations leading the way  Were to find Kristian online: Twitter: @KLdivergence (https://twitter.com/KLdivergence) 'Five-Cut Fridays’ series  Kristian’s list

Episode 19: Kristian Lum - Lifelong curiosity and Criminal Justice Reform through data

Origins are conversations with thought-leaders across an eclectic mix of disciplines (science, engineering, art, and design), crafted specifically for the category-defying society that we live in. We explore the thoughts, passions, and stories that defined these pioneers’ fascinating trajectories, arriving at the origins of the pivotal moments across their lives. Draw inspiration for your own trajectory from the intellectual and spiritual electricity of these eclectic conversations.

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Origins: Explorations of thought-leaders' pivotal moments

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