Mark Sanders is someone whose work and contribution to the mental health field I have admired from afar for many, many, many years.  Mark is an international speaker, trainer and consultant in the behavioral health field. He's authored five books and has been a  champion in the addiction field, speaking out and normalizing the needs that we have as people, period, and specifically in the Black community to de-stigmatize mental health. One thing I hope that you will look at it is an Online Museum of African-American Addictions, Treatment, and Recovery. This helps us to see that there are other people that have recovered and are doing the kind of work to move their lives forward. And one of the most unexpected directions our conversation took was talking about the healing power of music -- including rap and hip-hop. About Mark Sanders: Mark Sanders, LCSW, CADC, is an international speaker, trainer, and consultant in the behavioral health field whose work has reached thousands throughout the United States, Europe, Canada, Caribbean and British Islands.    Mark is the author of five books, which focus on behavioral health. Recent writings include Slipping through the Cracks: Intervention Strategies for Clients Multiple Addictions and Disorders, Recovery Management: and Relationship Detox: Helping Clients Develop Healthy Relationships in Recovery. He has had two stories published in the New York Times best-selling books series, Chicken Soup for the Soul. Mark has been a certified addictions counselor for 34 years. He has received numerous awards including a Life Time Achievement Award from the Illinois Addiction Counselor Certification Board and the Barbara Bacon Award for outstanding contributions to the Social Work profession as a Loyola University of Chicago Alumni.    Mark is co-founder of Serenity Academy of Chicago, the only recovery high school in Illinois. He is past president of the board of the Illinois Chapter of NAADAC. He has had a 30 year career as a university educator having taught at the University of Chicago, Illinois State University, Illinois School of Professional Psychology, and Loyola University of Chicago, School of Social Work. *** You're Invited... Circles of Strength Online Retreat May 15, June 12, 2021 *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com and let me know. Take care, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Facebook: @insideoutliving Instagram: @the_insideoutlife Twitter: @insideoutheal LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

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049 - Recovery Remix: Transforming Our Pain Into Purpose Mark Sanders LCSW, CADC

Black fatigue. Particularly for Black women. When I ran across the book, Black Fatigue: How Racism Erodes the Mind, Body, and Spirit, by Mary-Frances Winters, I had already gone through various renditions of COVID, the racism that has always been there... I was really, really, really tired, not so much in a sleepy way, but my soul was tired. This book helped me to understand more about what I'm looking at in my own life and in the work that I do with women. Our guest, Mary-Frances Winters is the CEO of The Winters Group, a global organization with a focus on diversity and inclusion consulting. Mary is truly working in her passion and her calling. About Mary-Frances: Ms. Winters is President and CEO of The Winters Group, Inc., a 36-year-old diversity and inclusion consulting firm, and the author of six books, including her best seller, We Can’t Talk about That at Work!: How to Talk about Race, Religion, Politics, and Other Polarizing Topics; and her two latest books, Inclusive Conversations: Fostering Equity, Empathy and Belonging across Differences and Black Fatigue: How Racism Erodes the Mind, Body, and Spirit. *** You're Invited... Circles of Strength Online Retreat May 15, June 12, 2021 *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com and let me know. Take care, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Facebook: @insideoutliving Instagram: @the_insideoutlife Twitter: @insideoutheal LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

048 - Mary-Frances Winters, Black Fatigue: An Invitation For Women To Find Rest

Lavelle Smith Hall is on a mission to save, transform, and to be able to create a space for 1 billion moms on this planet. Her organization, which is really more like a full, living, fluid organism is called MOMLogics and it's a safe space for redefining Black motherhood. The process begins by first taking care of yourself. Hear how Lavelle was inspired by her own experiences growing up, the challenges of parenting, and tragedy in her circle of friends. Learn more about MOMLogics: https://momlogics.com/ Facebook Private Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/momlogics LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lavellesh/   About Lavelle: I am "The Mom Shifter", a Personal Growth Consultant who trains businesses, organizations, and individuals on the enormous benefits of parenting through the lens of emotional intelligence. I'm a mompreneur, author, coach, founder and Chief Mom of MOMLogics, an online startup which exists to empower Black moms with the best strategies to enjoy better relationships with their children, spouses, and families. I have two children -- son Alec (20), a junior at Cornell University, and daughter Braelyn (14), a freshman at Marian Catholic High School. With my guidance, moms will apply lifestyle changes to help them effectively manage and enjoy motherhood. *** You're Invited... Circles of Strength Online Retreat April 17, May 15, June 12, 2021 *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com and let me know. Take care, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Facebook: @insideoutliving Instagram: @the_insideoutlife Twitter: @insideoutheal LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

047 - Redefining Black Motherhood with Lavelle Smith Hall, MOMLogics

We're talking trauma, embodiment, attachment theory -- how we become separated from ourselves and others and how to reintegrate safely. Three years ago, I went to this workshop in a suburb outside of Chicago. And I already knew what the deal was going to be. I was going to be, probably, the only Black person there, or one of two, because that's just how it is my field. And it was true. As I was walking up the steps to go to this room, my body started to defend. And by that, I mean, my shoulders became tight. My hips became tight. I had my serious face on because I needed to prepare as usual. I walked into this room and, you know, everybody was kinda milling around and the presenter was at the front and she was talking to some people. And as I was getting ready to sit down, I looked up and she was in the front of the room and she smiled from her heart through her eyes with her energy. It couldn't have been more than a second. And my body began to relax because I knew that I was safe just by that transaction. And so this woman that I am speaking of is Deirdre Fay. Deirdre Fay, MSW has decades of experience exploring the intersection of trauma, attachment, yoga, and meditation. She teaches “a radically positive approach to healing trauma”. Deirdre founded the Becoming Safely Embodied skills groups, the basis for this book, and is the author of Attachment-Based Yoga & Meditation for Trauma Recovery and co-author of Attachment Disturbances for Adults, as well as the co-author of chapters in Neurobiological Treatments of Traumatic Dissociation. To learn more about Deirdre visit https://dfay.com and to order her book Becoming Safely Embodied, https://dfay.com/book. You're Invited... Circles of Strength Online Retreat April 17, May 15, June 12, 2021 *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com and let me know. Take care, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Facebook: @insideoutliving Instagram: @the_insideoutlife Twitter: @insideoutheal LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

046 - Becoming Safely Embodied with Deirdre Fay

Ava Thompson Greenwell has taught broadcast writing, reporting and producing classes at Medill/Northwestern University since 1993.  In addition to her teaching duties, she has held several administrative posts including associate dean for curriculum, director of the Teaching Television Program, co-curator for the nationally recognized Ida B. Wells award and director of the McCormick Tribune Fellows Program.  Currently, she serves as co-director of the South Africa Journalism Residency Program. We talk about “Mandela in Chicago,” the documentary film Ava produced and directed about the city’s anti-apartheid movement; her new book Ladies Leading: The Black Women Who Control Television News; and the story of an experience her son had with the police in the town where they live, that traumatized the whole family -- and what they decided to do about it. To learn more about any of Ava's projects and her academic life coaching sessions, reach out a-greenwell@northwestern.edu, visit MandelainChicago.com or LadiesLeading.net.   You're Invited... Circles of Strength Online Retreat March 27, April 17, May 15, June 12, 2021   *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com with the subject line "Black Woman Burnout." Take care, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Facebook: @insideoutliving Instagram: @the_insideoutlife Twitter: @insideoutheal LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

045 - Ladies Leading with Ava Thompson Greenwell, PhD

Happy International Women's Month! Of course, we are in the practice of celebrating women all the time, every month, every day. We have to start with the woman in the mirror, and that means celebrating us. In this episode we talk about our experience of loss over the past year, while we've been in survival mode. This takes us on a journey visiting trauma, overwhelm, connection, spiritual practice, and healing. You're Invited... Circles of Strength Online Retreat March 27, April 17, May 15, June 12, 2021   *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com with the subject line "Black Woman Burnout." Take care, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Facebook: @insideoutliving Instagram: @the_insideoutlife Twitter: @insideoutheal LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

044 - It's All In You!

This is absolutely the most exciting podcast that I've ever done. And I have a very, very special guest for our fourth and final episode of the Black Woman Burnout series. We're going to be talking about burnout as it relates to how Black women suppress things.  I want to introduce you to my mother, Rita Jean Robinson Braxton Braxton Turner. Now those names will mean something to you as she and I continue to talk. She says that each one of those names represents a different level of suppression, resilience, and restoration in her life. "I'm in the room. And I want you to respect that." *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com with the subject line "Black Woman Burnout." Take care, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Lovely Space Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331858480409324 Lisa on Facebook: @lisalackeyconversations  Instagram: @lisalackey60 LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

043 - BWB 4: A conversation with my mom about suppression, resilience, and restoration

Our third episode in a series I have affectionately come to know as "BWB" -- Black Woman Burnout. And what we are going to be talking about today is just how much we, as Black women, repress our emotional selves -- how we repress those things that we feel afraid to express or don't have time to express or don't give ourselves permission to express. And so the title of this particular episode is "Sometimes you just want to holla!" Today, I have my sister with me and her name is Ramona Outlaw. Ramona first of all, is a retired high school principal in the Chicago Public School system. Even as late as today, even though she's retired, they're still calling her and she's still answering. She's been an educator for over 25 years and one of her greatest loves in life is traveling.  What she says about education and teaching is that she did not choose teaching -- teaching chose her and kept choosing her for over 26 years.  *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com with the subject line "Black Woman Burnout." Take care, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Lovely Space Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331858480409324 Lisa on Facebook: @lisalackeyconversations  Instagram: @lisalackey60 LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

042 - BWB 3: Sometimes we just wanna holla with Ramona Outlaw

Many of us, as Black women, sometimes aren't even aware that we're burned out because we're so used to keeping a pace. This is the second episode in a series highlighting Black Woman Burnout during Black History Month.   Gail Hutchison is a wellness leader, educator, and professional development trainer. She's a yogi and an inventor. And her personal mission is to inspire people to reach their full potential by providing encouragement tools and education that are required to succeed. Gail has been practicing yoga for two decades and has been teaching yoga for 15 years. She's also my long-time friend. As Black women, particularly during this time, we often feel vulnerable wanting these kinds of services and wanting them from someone that looks like us. And so I invited Gail today to focus on fatigue and how we can find deep rest and peace in our lives. Listen through to the end as Gail guides us through a meditative practice of savasana, which traditionally comes at the end of yoga class. Then check out her services at https://thejoyyoga.com. *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com with the subject line "Black Woman Burnout." Take care, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Lovely Space Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331858480409324 Lisa on Facebook: @lisalackeyconversations  Instagram: @lisalackey60 LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

041 - BWB 2: Deep Rest with Gail Hutchison

The conversations that I love to have are bold, messy, and real. And I've been thinking a lot about burnout and women -- reading different studies and different books related to burnout. While a lot of it has been very helpful, most of what I've found doesn't necessarily touch on the areas that are particular to black women. So that's where we are going and I invite you to come along with me into your imagination for this episode... *** If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com with the subject line "Black Woman Burnout." Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Lovely Space Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331858480409324 Lisa on Facebook: @lisalackeyconversations  Instagram: @lisalackey60 LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

40 - BWB: Black Woman Burnout

Today we're going to be talking about the holidays and grief. Grief. Yes, I know. Please don't skip this one. Don't skip this one because if you turn it off, you will not be able to either hear for the first time or be reminded of the benefits that come as a result of grieving. When I am talking about grief, I'm talking about the pain of loss and that could be, the obvious loss of someone through physical death, and it's so many other things as well. It could be loss of hope, loss of dream, loss of relationship, loss of esteem, loss of yourself, because you've been busy having to do a lot of different things and you've left yourself behind and you don't even know when or where or how. You just know that you feel empty. So if you've ever experienced loss, and that's all of us, grief is painful. However, if we treat ourselves well in the grieving process, (no matter what that looks like and yours doesn't have to look like anybody else's), but if we treat ourselves well in the grieving process, we're able to come through that grief to a different place. *** I invite you to come on in and join the conversation. If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com with the subject "Holiday Mini." Take care be well. And remember, it's YOUR time off, too! Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Lovely Space Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331858480409324 Lisa on Facebook: @lisalackeyconversations  Instagram: @lisalackey60 LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

039 - Holiday Mini - The benefits of grief

I've been thinking about something that I can give that would be of service and healing and support during these holiday seasons that we are in, as well as being in the season in ways that we never have been in the seasons before. It's been a long time and we have all, I'm sure, done our very best to try to stay sane and focused and positive... at least sometimes. And it's still been hard. And so what my gift to you during this holiday season is a "Holiday Mini" pod series -- all about little ways that you can stay in touch with you, that you can gift yourself with self-care. In this episode, I'm sharing a personal story and the following holiday treat: Take care of yourself. Ask for what you need. Notice if what you're angry about is something that you are participating in yourself. Become curious -- Is there something that I can do to decrease the stress and increase the self care, and the love, and the quality of engagement with those that I'm spending the holidays with? *** I invite you to come on in and join the conversation. If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a sense of relief, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com with the subject "Holiday Mini." Take care be well. And remember, it's YOUR time off, too! Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Lovely Space Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331858480409324 Lisa on Facebook: @lisalackeyconversations  Instagram: @lisalackey60 LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

038 - Holiday Mini - It's your time off too

Continuing our series on black women, racism, and trauma, I want to talk about tears. For some reason, years and years ago, I became interested in tears -- not just what they were chemically made of, but also the conceptions and misconceptions and what causes them, what silences them, what dries them up, what allows them to flow. And so I thought about the tears of black women and how much those tears were measured over the years. By measured, I mean, where they were stopped before they were completed -- simply because there was no time, simply because the next thing was calling, simply because there was another impact of trauma that called for a different response. I wonder how many tears are locked up in our eyes and in our bodies, in the very soul of who we are. I wonder how many leftover tears we have from our mothers, our grandmothers, our great grandmothers, our great, great grandmothers, and ancestors as far back as time. I wonder if the tears that we haven’t cried could fill every body of water that we know of throughout the world. Probably more, probably more... *** I invite you to come on in and join the conversation. If this conversation has brought you to an insight, a story, a suggestion, please email me at lisa@insideoutrecovery.com In your subject put “tears” so that I know to give special attention to that email. Happy Thanksgiving! Enjoy it with your family. Be safe. Don’t take unnecessary risks. Be creative so that we can do our part in coming together again. Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Lovely Space Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331858480409324 Lisa on Facebook: @lisalackeyconversations  Instagram: @lisalackey60 LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

037 - Black women, racism, trauma, and tears

We are living in this time where we are at a crossroads. We can decide to be lukewarm or take a stand, but in-between is no longer an option. So as I think about racism and black women, I can't help but think about how we view our bodies, both historically and currently, as it relates to what information has tried to be downloaded into our self-esteem for years and years and years and years and years. Our physical bodies and our spiritual bodies have been impacted by trauma. The assumption is that black women are strong and so therefore "she can take it." The nicknames that are given to our body parts, the objectification of our curvy figures and the cruel jokes about our butts that stick out are all "just in fun" because certainly black women can't be hurt. "She can take it" because she's strong -- strong, beyond human strength. We have to ask is it an assumption, or is it an excuse or outlandish treatment? In this episode, I’m starting a story of a black woman, a queen, Sarah 'Saartjie’ Baartman, born in 1789, who was trafficked, brutally abused, and whose remains were put on display in a museum for decades to come. It is not easy to hear. I share this with you because I want us to help Sarah Baartman to rest in peace by returning to ourselves without apology, and to carry ourselves as the phenomenal women we are. I invite you to come on in and join the conversation. If this story resonates with you, email me lisa@insideoutrecovery.com. I want to hear from those who are struggling and living outside of their identity and into the names that have been given that are not true. I want to hear how you are coming back to YOUR identity, or maybe you already have and can share what that path has been. In the subject line, I want you to put 'Warrior Queen." And then if you're able to put the little crown symbol in that subject line. I look forward to continuing the conversation with you. Peace and Blessings, Lisa *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: lisa@insideoutrecovery.com Lovely Space Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331858480409324 Lisa on Facebook: @lisalackeyconversations  Instagram: @lisalackey60 LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

036 - Black women, racism, trauma and our beautiful bodies

There are traumas that everyone recognizes. If you're in a house fire, you are aware of all that it took to escape that house fire. If there were major damages, or losses of people or animals, you know that that was a traumatic event. Another traumatic event is feeling different, feeling like your difference isn't seen, heard, respected or understood -- and in that difference feeling as though you don't fit in and experiencing, for example, an internalized loneliness. So many of my experiences as a black woman and as a black child -- there was always either a spotlight on me or no light at all. And that left me not feeling that in public, my difference was a good thing.  What I also found out is that even if I had the care and love of family, once I went beyond those doors and further and further into life, often, those good and true and solid messages got drowned out by the louder voices of some message that my blackness was less than not important, as not necessarily taken seriously, or the opposite -- seen as different, meaning “not like the other black people” that they've met. As a teacher, I know the impact of trauma on our opportunity to live the life we have on our vision board or in our minds. And I know that trauma can be healed. In this episode, I’m starting a conversation with you about black women, racism and trauma to remind us of things that we’ve forgotten and to create space to share our experiences, strength and hope. I invite you to come on in and join the conversation. *** Subscribe here for courses, events, webinars & more here https://mailchi.mp/insideoutrecovery/waitlist Connect with us: Insideoutconvo@insideoutconversations.com  Lovely Space Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331858480409324 Lisa on Facebook: @lisalackeyconversations  Instagram: @lisalackey60 LinkedIn: Lisa Lackey *** Insideout Conversations is edited by The Creative Impostor Studios. Theme music is by Nicholas77 at freesound.org and is licensed under the Creative Commons. Learn more about Lisa and her clinical practice, Insideout Living: https://www.insideoutrecovery.com/  

035 - Black women, racism, and trauma

Deep conversations about life, relationships, and recovery. In this personal storytelling podcast, licensed professional clinician, transformational speaker, and conversation starter Lisa Lackey will show you how to take the front seat in your life, to step out where you’ve been hesitant, and to move forward in being all that you and others have told you that you can’t be. All you have to do is be willing to show up in your own life the best you can, and come on in to join the conversation.

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